Re: [Harp-L] Organ key in "Help Me"

["Ken Brocx" <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx>]

I just looked up "Blues organ" on youtube and it's definetely a hammond
organ.

On Nov 16, 2007 11:20 AM, Ken Brocx <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Oh, and I particuarly want to be able to play the organ harmonies, towards
> the end there's a lot of it.
> Even just the stepping part "buuuuuuuuuuuum bump ......... (higher)
> buuuuuuuuuuuuum bump ........(lower again) buuuuuuuuuuum bump" heh heh. Hope
> that makes some kind of sense to someone. On the organ they sound really
> "jazzzy".
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 11:08 AM, Ken Brocx <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Thank you everyone!
> > Just to be clear it's the organ part I want to play on harp, not the
> > harp part.
> > The third position tricks look like something I'll try, but I'm gonna
> > pick up the Lee Oskar in F nat minor and see what I can come up with.
> > Always wanted to try a minor harp and looks like this is my chance. :)
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2007 10:28 AM, Winslow Yerxa < winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The original is in F minor. As noted, to play the organ riff on a Bb
> > > harp you'd need to overblow.
> > >
> > > An alternative would be to play it in third position, on anEb harp if
> > > the tune is being played in F.
> > >
> > > The I chord riff would is Draw 1, Draw 2 bent 2 semitones, the unbent
> > > draw 2.
> > >
> > > The IV chord riff would involve Draw 2, Draw 3 bent 1 semitone, and
> > > bow
> > > 4.
> > >
> > > The V chord riff would start on Draw 3 bent down 2 semitones, then go
> > > to Blow 4 and Draw 4.
> > >
> > > Third position is also a great poistion for soloing on that tune,
> > > though you'd want to avoid Draw 7 and unbent Draw 3 on the IV chord.
> > >
> > > Winslow
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Eugene Ryan <ryan.eugene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ken wrote:
> > > > >>In Sonny Boy Williamson's song "One Way Out" there is an organ
> > > > playing in
> > > > >>the background in what I suppose is a minor key.
> > > > >>If I wanted to play that organ part of the song can anyone tell me
> > > > what harp
> > > > >>and key I could use?
> > > > >>Lee Oskar Natural Minor or Harmonic Minor maybe?
> > > >
> > > > I think the song was played on a Bb harp in 2nd position, in F
> > > minor.
> > > > If the organ is playing what I think it was playing, it's that 1 b3
> > > 4
> > > > b3 1 riff.  If you went to play the organ part on a standard Bb
> > > blues
> > > > harp in F minor, when it goes to the the IV chord (Bbm), the note
> > > > naturally available on the blues harp will be D, not Db.  You would
> > > > have to overblow to get this note, or use one of the minor tunings
> > > as
> > > > you suggested.
> > > >
> > > > That should work on a natural minor harp, where you can play the
> > > > minor
> > > > riff in I, IV and V and change chord with it each time.   Lee Oskar
> > > > would label the correct harp for this as F nat minor, Hohner would
> > > > call it Bb nat minor.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have that record any more, and I'm sitting at my computer
> > > > right now, so i may be wrong, but you can check out the first part
> > > of
> > > > the riff by playing a harp in 3rd position to see if it's a minor.
> > > > Eb
> > > > harp in 3rd positon = F minor.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that helps.  Natural minor harps are great for minor blues in
> > > > 2nd position!
> > > >
> > > > Eugene
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