Re: [Harp-L] Organ key in "Help Me"

["Ken Brocx" <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you everyone!
Just to be clear it's the organ part I want to play on harp, not the harp
part.
The third position tricks look like something I'll try, but I'm gonna pick
up the Lee Oskar in F nat minor and see what I can come up with.
Always wanted to try a minor harp and looks like this is my chance. :)

-Ken

On Nov 16, 2007 10:28 AM, Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The original is in F minor. As noted, to play the organ riff on a Bb
> harp you'd need to overblow.
>
> An alternative would be to play it in third position, on anEb harp if
> the tune is being played in F.
>
> The I chord riff would is Draw 1, Draw 2 bent 2 semitones, the unbent
> draw 2.
>
> The IV chord riff would involve Draw 2, Draw 3 bent 1 semitone, and bow
> 4.
>
> The V chord riff would start on Draw 3 bent down 2 semitones, then go
> to Blow 4 and Draw 4.
>
> Third position is also a great poistion for soloing on that tune,
> though you'd want to avoid Draw 7 and unbent Draw 3 on the IV chord.
>
> Winslow
>
>
> --- Eugene Ryan <ryan.eugene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Ken wrote:
> > >>In Sonny Boy Williamson's song "One Way Out" there is an organ
> > playing in
> > >>the background in what I suppose is a minor key.
> > >>If I wanted to play that organ part of the song can anyone tell me
> > what harp
> > >>and key I could use?
> > >>Lee Oskar Natural Minor or Harmonic Minor maybe?
> >
> > I think the song was played on a Bb harp in 2nd position, in F minor.
> > If the organ is playing what I think it was playing, it's that 1 b3 4
> > b3 1 riff.  If you went to play the organ part on a standard Bb blues
> > harp in F minor, when it goes to the the IV chord (Bbm), the note
> > naturally available on the blues harp will be D, not Db.  You would
> > have to overblow to get this note, or use one of the minor tunings as
> > you suggested.
> >
> > That should work on a natural minor harp, where you can play the
> > minor
> > riff in I, IV and V and change chord with it each time.   Lee Oskar
> > would label the correct harp for this as F nat minor, Hohner would
> > call it Bb nat minor.
> >
> > I don't have that record any more, and I'm sitting at my computer
> > right now, so i may be wrong, but you can check out the first part of
> > the riff by playing a harp in 3rd position to see if it's a minor.
> > Eb
> > harp in 3rd positon = F minor.
> >
> > I hope that helps.  Natural minor harps are great for minor blues in
> > 2nd position!
> >
> > Eugene
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