Re: [Harp-L] Organ key in "Help Me"

["Ken Brocx" <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx>]

Oh, and I particuarly want to be able to play the organ harmonies, towards
the end there's a lot of it.
Even just the stepping part "buuuuuuuuuuuum bump ......... (higher)
buuuuuuuuuuuuum bump ........(lower again) buuuuuuuuuuum bump" heh heh. Hope
that makes some kind of sense to someone. On the organ they sound really
"jazzzy".

On Nov 16, 2007 11:08 AM, Ken Brocx <ken.brocx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thank you everyone!
> Just to be clear it's the organ part I want to play on harp, not the harp
> part.
> The third position tricks look like something I'll try, but I'm gonna pick
> up the Lee Oskar in F nat minor and see what I can come up with.
> Always wanted to try a minor harp and looks like this is my chance. :)
>
> -Ken
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 10:28 AM, Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>
> > The original is in F minor. As noted, to play the organ riff on a Bb
> > harp you'd need to overblow.
> >
> > An alternative would be to play it in third position, on anEb harp if
> > the tune is being played in F.
> >
> > The I chord riff would is Draw 1, Draw 2 bent 2 semitones, the unbent
> > draw 2.
> >
> > The IV chord riff would involve Draw 2, Draw 3 bent 1 semitone, and bow
> > 4.
> >
> > The V chord riff would start on Draw 3 bent down 2 semitones, then go
> > to Blow 4 and Draw 4.
> >
> > Third position is also a great poistion for soloing on that tune,
> > though you'd want to avoid Draw 7 and unbent Draw 3 on the IV chord.
> >
> > Winslow
> >
> >
> > --- Eugene Ryan <ryan.eugene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Ken wrote:
> > > >>In Sonny Boy Williamson's song "One Way Out" there is an organ
> > > playing in
> > > >>the background in what I suppose is a minor key.
> > > >>If I wanted to play that organ part of the song can anyone tell me
> > > what harp
> > > >>and key I could use?
> > > >>Lee Oskar Natural Minor or Harmonic Minor maybe?
> > >
> > > I think the song was played on a Bb harp in 2nd position, in F minor.
> > > If the organ is playing what I think it was playing, it's that 1 b3 4
> > > b3 1 riff.  If you went to play the organ part on a standard Bb blues
> > > harp in F minor, when it goes to the the IV chord (Bbm), the note
> > > naturally available on the blues harp will be D, not Db.  You would
> > > have to overblow to get this note, or use one of the minor tunings as
> > > you suggested.
> > >
> > > That should work on a natural minor harp, where you can play the
> > > minor
> > > riff in I, IV and V and change chord with it each time.   Lee Oskar
> > > would label the correct harp for this as F nat minor, Hohner would
> > > call it Bb nat minor.
> > >
> > > I don't have that record any more, and I'm sitting at my computer
> > > right now, so i may be wrong, but you can check out the first part of
> > > the riff by playing a harp in 3rd position to see if it's a minor.
> > > Eb
> > > harp in 3rd positon = F minor.
> > >
> > > I hope that helps.  Natural minor harps are great for minor blues in
> > > 2nd position!
> > >
> > > Eugene
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