[Harp-L] Stevie Wonder FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE

[Michael Rubin]

Thanks George!  I wonder why I was taught otherwise.
Michael

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 9:37 AM Slim Heilpern <slim at xxxxx> wrote:

> OK, seems like we're getting into the weeds here.  I'll just mention that
> the only thing that is at all trill-like in that solo is the riff over the
> C#9(#11) chord, where both "trill" notes (G and G#) are in the scale one
> would normally play over that chord. I think you can call it a trill, but
> if not, I stand corrected.
>
> - Slim
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2020, at 7:23 AM, George Miklas <harmonicat at xxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> George Miklas
> 10:22 AM (0 minutes ago)
> to Michael
> Michael and others... RE: trills,  namely, Baroque trills in the
> traditional sense.
>
> Lets set some ground rules.....
> 1.) a trill is diatonic
> 2.) trills are approached from above the note - this creates the musical
> effect of "dissonance and consonance" or "dissonance and release."
> 3.) there are both whole and half steps in all diatonic scales.
>
> So in the key of C...
> C trill will be a whole step (trill starts on D)
> D trill will be a whole step (trill starts on E)
> E trill will be a half step (trill starts on F)
> F trill will be a whole step (trill starts on G)
> G trill will be a whole step (trill starts on A)
> A trill will be a whole step (trill starts on B)
> B trill will be a half step  (trill starts on C)
>
> The slide on a slide chromatic acts to raise all pitches 1/2 step.
> Most "button crazy" chromatic harmonica players call "randomly pushing the
> button rapidly" a "trill" when 5/7 of the time, it is not a "trill," but
> instead it is "randomly pushing the button rapidly."
>
> Does that make sense?
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> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 9:54 AM Michael Rubin <
> michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Not 4 and 5 draw, I meant 3nad 4 draw.  No coffee yet.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:52 AM Michael Rubin <
>> michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > It's cool with me to call something a half step trill, but isn't a whole
>> > step distance implied within the word trill?  As far as I know you can
>> only
>> > trill by shaking between 4 and 5 draw (and their higher octave repeats)
>> on
>> > a chrome and 6 and 7 draw on a diatonic.  "Trilling" a half step isn't
>> > really trilling, it's something else.  I call moving between 2 notes
>> > rapidly by repeatedly pushing the button in and out a "flourish", but
>> > that's my own term and has no basis in classical music terminology.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:40 AM Slim Heilpern <slim at xxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I know this solo well, not sure what trill you're talking about. The
>> solo
>> >> is definitely in F#, lays out perfectly in that key, no whole step
>> trills.
>> >> There is definitely a half step G to G# trill.
>> >>
>> >> - Slim
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Sep 19, 2020, at 3:31 AM, Robert Hale <ynfdwas at xxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Stevie Wonder FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE many pros play it and tab it as a
>> >> > half-step slide, but I hear a whole step trill.
>> >> > Slowing it down and isolating it, I am sure of it.
>> >> > The recording is in F#, but that whole step trill can only occur
>> between
>> >> > Draw holes 3 and 4, putting it in the Key of G, or G# with slide in.
>> >> > What's your call?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you, from Mesa, Arizona USA
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert Hale
>> >> > RobertHaleMusic.com
>> >> > Robert at xxxxx
>> >> > 480-720-8897
>> >>
>> >>
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