[Harp-L] Stevie Wonder FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE

Slim Heilpern slim@xxxxx
Sat Sep 19 10:37:07 EDT 2020


OK, seems like we're getting into the weeds here.  I'll just mention that the only thing that is at all trill-like in that solo is the riff over the C#9(#11) chord, where both "trill" notes (G and G#) are in the scale one would normally play over that chord. I think you can call it a trill, but if not, I stand corrected.

- Slim


> On Sep 19, 2020, at 7:23 AM, George Miklas <harmonicat at xxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> George Miklas
> 10:22 AM (0 minutes ago)
> 
> to Michael
> Michael and others... RE: trills,  namely, Baroque trills in the traditional sense. 
> 
> Lets set some ground rules.....
> 1.) a trill is diatonic
> 2.) trills are approached from above the note - this creates the musical effect of "dissonance and consonance" or "dissonance and release."
> 3.) there are both whole and half steps in all diatonic scales.
> 
> So in the key of C...
> C trill will be a whole step (trill starts on D)
> D trill will be a whole step (trill starts on E)
> E trill will be a half step (trill starts on F)
> F trill will be a whole step (trill starts on G)
> G trill will be a whole step (trill starts on A)
> A trill will be a whole step (trill starts on B)
> B trill will be a half step  (trill starts on C)
> 
> The slide on a slide chromatic acts to raise all pitches 1/2 step.
> Most "button crazy" chromatic harmonica players call "randomly pushing the button rapidly" a "trill" when 5/7 of the time, it is not a "trill," but instead it is "randomly pushing the button rapidly."
> 
> Does that make sense?
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> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 9:54 AM Michael Rubin <michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx <mailto:michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx>> wrote:
> Not 4 and 5 draw, I meant 3nad 4 draw.  No coffee yet.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:52 AM Michael Rubin <
> michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx <mailto:michaelrubinharmonica at xxxxx>> wrote:
> 
> > It's cool with me to call something a half step trill, but isn't a whole
> > step distance implied within the word trill?  As far as I know you can only
> > trill by shaking between 4 and 5 draw (and their higher octave repeats) on
> > a chrome and 6 and 7 draw on a diatonic.  "Trilling" a half step isn't
> > really trilling, it's something else.  I call moving between 2 notes
> > rapidly by repeatedly pushing the button in and out a "flourish", but
> > that's my own term and has no basis in classical music terminology.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:40 AM Slim Heilpern <slim at xxxxx <mailto:slim at xxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >> I know this solo well, not sure what trill you're talking about. The solo
> >> is definitely in F#, lays out perfectly in that key, no whole step trills.
> >> There is definitely a half step G to G# trill.
> >>
> >> - Slim
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Sep 19, 2020, at 3:31 AM, Robert Hale <ynfdwas at xxxxx <mailto:ynfdwas at xxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Stevie Wonder FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE many pros play it and tab it as a
> >> > half-step slide, but I hear a whole step trill.
> >> > Slowing it down and isolating it, I am sure of it.
> >> > The recording is in F#, but that whole step trill can only occur between
> >> > Draw holes 3 and 4, putting it in the Key of G, or G# with slide in.
> >> > What's your call?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, from Mesa, Arizona USA
> >> >
> >> > Robert Hale
> >> > RobertHaleMusic.com
> >> > Robert at xxxxx
> >> > 480-720-8897
> >>
> >>



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