Re: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 133, Issue 22

[Vern <jevern@xxxxxxx>]

The stress in a reed is a function of the amplitude of its vibration. This amplitude is affected by the pressure difference across the reed.   Do you know of any reason that a cold reed would vibrate at a greater amplitude than a warmer one? Do you blow/draw harder when the harp is cold?

Do you know that a âdeep bendâ causes either reed to vibrate at a greater amplitude?  You may be making the unwarranted assumption that the greater effort that the player must use to bend is felt by the reed.

Vern

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:22 AM, patpowers <patpowers@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks guys - that is some really cool information!  But, please note (yes, pun intended again) that my recommendation had nothing to do with pitch, and was simply to reduce the risk of over-stressing the reeds.  I would not recommend grabbing a cold harp out of the case and immediately start doing deep bends on it.
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> Keep Harpin'!
> Pat Powers
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vern" <jevern@xxxxxxx>
> To: "Larry Sandy" <slyou65@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: patpowers@xxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:18:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 133, Issue 22
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> If you cooled a brass reed by 20 degF, its pitch would INCREASE by about 1 centâ.imperceptible among the other variables affecting pitch.  (derived from the chart at http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/young-modulus-d_773.html ) Note that E (modulus of elasticity) decreases with increasing temperature and that pitch is proportional to the square root of E.  
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> If the pitch is decreased by moisture on the reed, the effects would tend to cancel.
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> Vern
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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Larry Sandy <slyou65@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Pat, that's interesting.  I have never heard that cold reeds are less flexible. That must translate into them playing a LITTLE FLAT until they warm up. I know cold reeds collect breath moisture quickly though, which would also lower the pitch. Interesting parallel.  I wonder if cold, moist reeds are double flat?  ð<br/><br/>Lockjaw Larry
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