Re: [Harp-L] recommendations for an all in one effects unit

[Eric Miller <miller.eric.t@xxxxxxxxx>]

so...you are suggesting that it might be wise to fore-go the amp and
instead use the RP/Richard's patches *only* to get the same type of tones
the amp might have provided, and then just go direct.

that makes tons of sense.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Low and behold, I've owned a VHT too.  I have a pretty strong opinion on
> this too, but if I am going to have to mic a small amp to hear it, and I am
> getting a small amp because of portability, size, and cost, I'd go with a
> pedal board in lieu of an amp.  I did this all already...I played with a
> VHT miked and a M13.
>
> http://youtu.be/CF-yMpwcFiw
>
> http://youtu.be/XPR71UXegKU (not me singing)
>
> Bottom line was I still needed a vocal monitor, still used a pedal board,
> and then had to lug the amp, mic, and stand.
>
> In theory, you can get a DT, Richard's patches, and a keyboard amp to run
> the rig (see his site) and be covered nearly all the time.  Here's a clip
> of a RP255 with one of his patches straight to my desktop mixer.
> http://youtu.be/4IVwJmfODSU
>
> IME, using a Fireball or maybe a SM57-ish mic work best in regards to
> managing volume and feedback with a band.  Why I ultimatley, twice, moved
> away form the RP stuff was due to tweakability live.  I found my Tech 21
> Para DI and M9 to work better.   That is a costly rig, though.  Over the
> last year or so, I've hardly gigged at all, failed to get into home
> recording, and decided to put my energy into other avenues.
>
> In doing so, I tried to unload a lot of my "extra" gear and go pretty
> barebones.  While not the cheapest route, I would be content doing pickup
> gigs and recording with simply the Zoom G5 as it is very easy to edit on
> the fly and the layout involves less scrolling than the RP stuff.  It
> covers amped tones and effects well.  That and my Ultimate 57 would allow
> me to go back in time and do all the gigs I've ever done while being
> content save potential feedback issues based on how loud former bands
> played.
>
> Flashing forward, I have three live projects in the mix that all came to me
> at the same time.  I am insisting to myself that I have to be able to set
> up and tear down quickly.  The G5 meets that criteria.  I put together a
> Lone Wolf Board mostly because I got great deals on the pedals, had the
> Nano already, and sold off most my old PA gear to more than fund the
> purchase of a pedal or two, lol.  I am not sure if I'll use it a lot or
> not.  Heck, I have a great wireless, but it is 12v and would require a
> bigger board, so I am not even using that.
>
> I have had, and will continue to have, a rig based off of "modern" gear,
> but I want it to be small and easy to use LIVE.  Generally, I use my PA
> when gigging, and that means I also need to have room for a mixer and light
> controller.  I went through my stuff last night and was still crabby about
> the space it takes up and trips needed to load in and out, lol.  I did,
> though, find a way to mount the mixer to my harp stand and the light
> controller to my vocal stand.
>
>
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>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Eric Miller <miller.eric.t@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys, that's great info.  I'll look into the digitech units based
> > on your recommendations, and the availability of Richard Hunter's patches
> >
> > is the VHT amp a good route?  seems to be based on what I've read.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Mike <mikefugazzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Digitech RP255 or RP355, Line 9 M9 or M13, and the Zoom G3 or G5 are all
> >> great units.  If I use compression, I generally use a dedicated pedal,
> and
> >> I find distortion pedals to be hard to tame live, but all of those unit
> >> will give you all of those things in spades.
> >>
> >> Having used the RP255, M9, M13, and G5, I find the M9/M3 to be the best
> >> units overall.  First and foremost, the layout and interface is WAY
> easy to
> >> use and very easily tweaked live.  Secondly, the delays sound great and
> any
> >> mods other than pitch shift are VERY useable live.  The mods aren't as
> >> great as other manufacturers, but I had zero issues with phase, chorus,
> >> rotary, and vibrato with harmonica.
> >>
> >> I am experimenting with using a Pedal Train Nano with my G5.  The G5
> >> would work for me as a stand alone unit, including amp tones, but
> scrolling
> >> is hard compared to the other units.  On the Nano, I currently have a
> Lone
> >> Wolf Flat Cat and Tech 21 Para DI.  I have a HarpBreak and Delay V2
> headed
> >> my way and the final board will be the three LW pedals with the Break
> >> acting as distortion.  I will use the delay only when I don't take the
> G5.
> >>
> >> The G5 is setup strictly for effects.  I use a 12AY7 tube as the boost
> >> for my straight-to-PA tone.  If I need more, I just use the Para DI as a
> >> traditional DI for tone shaping.  I will start gigging again in February
> >> and am anxious to check it out.  I essentially have two small pedal
> boards
> >> - one for blues, one for rock, and one for modern sounds.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:16:07 AM UTC-6, Eric Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>> As I'm building my harp arsenal, it's time for me to graduate from
> >>> recycling all my guitar effects pedals and guitar amp, and purchase a
> >>> dedicated rig for the harp.
> >>>
> >>> for the amp, I'm considering either a kalamazoo or a vht amp based on
> >>> these
> >>> articles <http://bluesharpamps.**blogspot.com/2008/06/best-**
> >>> harp-amps.html<
> http://bluesharpamps.blogspot.com/2008/06/best-harp-amps.html>>
> >>> by
> >>> Rick Davis
> >>>
> >>> just curious what is considered the best All-In-One effects unit for
> >>> harmonica, that sort of has all the stuff you need compression,
> >>> distortion,
> >>> delay, verb, etc.
> >>>
> >>> thanks as always
> >>>
> >>
> >
>