Re: [Harp-L] RE: $10 Cover

["david robbins" <drobbins5658@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i always sided w bar owners re pay amt. / i cant stand it when bandmates 
complain about pay or the amt of pay offered.

if a band doesnt promote themselves or does and still doesnt bring in new 
bar patrons then a bar owner is losing money even if the bar is full of 
their established regulars.

on the other hand, if a band brings in some new customers to a bar and this 
increases steadily with each performance then pay must increase.

and yes, bands NEED to promote themselves as much as humanly possible if 
they expect a decent wage. do not leave it up to the bar owners, nine times 
out of ten, the bar owner is a small entreprenaur without ellaborate 
marketing skills.

regarding a cover charge, it's got to be reasonable during this terrible 
economy. Either no cover or 3.00-5.00 (local, regional acts) and 10.00-16.00 
(national acts) is plenty for a customer to pay.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Leone" <3n037@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Scott Harris" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "harp-l" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: $10 Cover


> Actually I agree with you. I really do. I (publicly) am truly sorry for 
> the tone of the post I made and I was coming from another angle. The 
> workers side. It takes some people years and years to reach a job where 
> they can feed themselves. Some never do. And like you said, it takes money 
> to start and run a business. But then 'someone' must have been able to 
> have come up WITH the money. Some never do.
>
> smo-joe
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:06 AM, Scott Harris wrote:
>
> > Respectfully, it costs money to start and run a business.  I'm always 
> > amazed how many people think its easy, but it's never the ones who have 
> > actually done it.  I guess I figure we all have choices to make, even 
> > musicians.  If someone doesn't pay enough to make it worth your while, 
> > don't play.  The owner is under no obligation to pay more than he/she 
> > wants to.  Employees and artists can choose to not work for what's 
> > offered, of course.
> >
> > Scott Harris
> > President
> > Mustang Marketing