RE: [Harp-L] Autumn Leaves, 12th pos???? thanks all

[Eric Garcia <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

thanks for everyone's suggestions and help.
i forgot how useful harp-l can be..
as far as the overblows and precise bends mentioned in posts,
i've been playing awhile and look forward to the challenge.
and acoustic group i play with plays the song, and i heard Frederic Yonnet's version
and really liked it.

thanks to all for your help... very nice post Winslow.

eric




> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:01:36 -0800
> From: winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Autumn Leaves, 12th pos????
> To: ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> No tune is "in" any position. You can always choose.
> 
> A particular position may be the easiest to play a tune in, while
> another may be harder but offer some cool possibilities. Some tunes may
> play with equal ease in more than one position.
> 
> Autumn Leaves is a minor key tune and it runs through the entire
> diatonic cycle of chords that are usually found in a minor key (though
> the V chord has a raised third (E7 if you're playing it in A minor)).
> 
> The default scale for 12th position is a major type of scale (the
> Lydian scale to be precise), while Autumn Leaves is a minor tune. This
> suggests that adapting the scale and chords of Autumn Leaves to 12th
> might involve quite a bit of bending and overblowing.
> 
> The position with a default scale (the scale that can be played without
> bends or overblows, or as few as possible) that is minor and the
> closest fit to Autumn Leaves is 4th position. This would be A on a
> C-harp. G on a Bb-harp, etc.
> 
> The first few phrases of the tune in tab for 4th pos (B = Blow, D =
> Draw, OB = OB, b=bend one semitone bb=bend 2 semitones, etc.)
> 
> 3Dbb 3D 4B 5D   --or--  6D 7D 7B 9D
> 
> 2D 3Dbb 3D 5B   --or--  6B 6D 7D 8B
> 
> 2Dbb 2D 3Dbb 4D --or--  5D 6B 6D 8D
> 
> 2B 2Db 3Dbbb 4B --or--  5B 5OB 6Db 7B
> 
> Note that the actual scale used in the tune varies. Let's say the tune
> is in G minor (sometimes it's played in E minor).
> 
> Sometimes the scale uses: G A Bb C D Eb F G
> 
> But sometimes instead Eb and F you Get E and F#. usually the melody is
> moving in an upward direction when this happens.
> 
> This form of the minor scale is known as melodic minor (as opposed to
> natural minor and harmonic minor). Descending, the 6th and 7th degrees
> tend to be minor (like Eb and F) while ascending they tend to be major
> (one semitone higher) like E and F#.
> 
> Winslow
> 
> --- Eric Garcia <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > hi all.. been off list for a while, but i guess i'm back...
> > 
> > i have been told that Autumn Leaves is in 12th position.
> > i am only fluent in 1st 2nd and 3rd...i have been googleing for a
> > while,, and i can
> > find out what harp to grab in12th in relation to the key.. but i
> > can't find the actual SCALE
> > 
> > can anyone send me a link or attach a file with that info for me
> > please!!!!!!
> > 
> > eric
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