Re: [Harp-L] Autumn Leaves, 12th pos????

[Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx>]

No tune is "in" any position. You can always choose.

A particular position may be the easiest to play a tune in, while
another may be harder but offer some cool possibilities. Some tunes may
play with equal ease in more than one position.

Autumn Leaves is a minor key tune and it runs through the entire
diatonic cycle of chords that are usually found in a minor key (though
the V chord has a raised third (E7 if you're playing it in A minor)).

The default scale for 12th position is a major type of scale (the
Lydian scale to be precise), while Autumn Leaves is a minor tune. This
suggests that adapting the scale and chords of Autumn Leaves to 12th
might involve quite a bit of bending and overblowing.

The position with a default scale (the scale that can be played without
bends or overblows, or as few as possible) that is minor and the
closest fit to Autumn Leaves is 4th position. This would be A on a
C-harp. G on a Bb-harp, etc.

The first few phrases of the tune in tab for 4th pos (B = Blow, D =
Draw, OB = OB, b=bend one semitone bb=bend 2 semitones, etc.)

3Dbb 3D 4B 5D   --or--  6D 7D 7B 9D

2D 3Dbb 3D 5B   --or--  6B 6D 7D 8B

2Dbb 2D 3Dbb 4D --or--  5D 6B 6D 8D

2B 2Db 3Dbbb 4B --or--  5B 5OB 6Db 7B

Note that the actual scale used in the tune varies. Let's say the tune
is in G minor (sometimes it's played in E minor).

Sometimes the scale uses: G A Bb C D Eb F G

But sometimes instead Eb and F you Get E and F#. usually the melody is
moving in an upward direction when this happens.

This form of the minor scale is known as melodic minor (as opposed to
natural minor and harmonic minor). Descending, the 6th and 7th degrees
tend to be minor (like Eb and F) while ascending they tend to be major
(one semitone higher) like E and F#.

Winslow

--- Eric Garcia <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> hi all.. been off list for a while, but i guess i'm back...
> 
> i have been told that Autumn Leaves is in 12th position.
> i am only fluent in 1st 2nd and 3rd...i have been googleing for a
> while,, and i can
> find out what harp to grab in12th in relation to the key.. but i
> can't find the actual SCALE
> 
> can anyone send me a link or attach a file with that info for me
> please!!!!!!
> 
> eric
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