Re: [Harp-L] Re: future harmonicas and all that



No offense, but I do think the stove analogy is not particularly useful.

First of all, I'd say that the argument of what is more "essential" for the blues is a red herring. I think you can play it on the autoharp, the pan-pipes or the glockenspiel. What is more used in the process of making it may well be for pragmatic reasons than being illustrative of some elemental truth regarding its position in the orbit of essentiality.

There may be more sax and trumpet bands than there are piano trios. I'm not sure if there are, actually, but lets say so for the sake of argument. Are there more blues bands without harp players than with? Well, maybe. Could it be because there are many many more guitar, bass players and drummers than harp players? That would be my guess. In my neck of the woods I know indeed twenty guitarists, drummers or bass players for every harmonica players. Probably fifty, if I really took the time to count. Of each. Could that be because of massive popularity of those instruments for the last 50 years? Could be? Could it be because of their high degree of utility in numerous styles and applications? Could be that too. Does it mean that they're more important that harmonica in a blues band? Not to the person who wants to hear harmonica in a blues band.

Is the harmonica more essential than the others? Gee, I wouldn't say that. I don't think it's a valid question, anyway. Was it part of the early development and therefore is inextricably woven into it? Yes indeed. More essential? Essential? Less essential? Don't think it's a valid question.

Anders Rex "Rich" Tobago
Hanglemeister


On May 26, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Jonathan Ross wrote:


Let us consider jazz quartets. They usually include a sax or trumpet. Of course, piano trios exist and need no sax or trumpet. Sax and trumpet are lead instruments as per your categorization of the harmonica. But I don't think that it means that sax, trumpet or harmonica are less essential. They are essential to achieving a particular sound that has its own particular merits.

One difference is, that there are at least as many sax and trumpet bands as piano trios. In the blues, harmonica fronted bends are the minority, with bands without harmonica being the majority; in Jazz, bands without a saxophone are probably in the minority.


I'm not saying that the harmonica is not important in the blues, but I really do feel that the importance is overstated and exaggerated--my point was that most blues bands don't have a harmonica, but most do have guitar, bass and drums. So to call the harmonica "essential" to the blues seems like a significant overstatement. There are many harmonica players who have been essential to the history of the music, and most bassists and drummers have been ignored (sidemen always are, and as the harmonica is primarily a frontman instrument, that's natural). But that doesn't mean that the instrument is more essential than the others, or even as essential.

My stove has a fan above it. This is nice as it circulates the air and keeps things from getting too hot, smokey or setting off the fire alarm (actually, not well enough--stupid thing is either in the wrong place or way too sensitive). Many stoves have these fans, perhaps even most. But not all. Would you call the fan "essential" to the stove the way the boilers are? The gas exhausts? It's not a perfect analogy, but I think it might help to give a better idea of the point I'm trying to make.



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