[Harp-L] Harp-L Digest, Vol 182, Issue 16 - Modes and Trane's improvising

Jerome P. jersimuse@xxxxx
Mon Oct 29 16:12:01 EDT 2018

Thanks Richard !
I'm just beginning to compose for my next album, I hope you'll like it also

I don't know the book "the art of composition", I'll have a look at it,
thanks for the tip.



Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 19:46, Dennis Michael Montgomery via Harp-L <
harp-l at xxxxx> a écrit :

>  I never heard a diatonic harmonica sounding like an accordion. Where can
> I hear one? I do wish that the Suzuki Hammond diatonic did sound like a
> Hammond organ.  And I do agree that a classical or acoustic guitar should
> sound like a guitar and not a piano.
>     On Monday, October 29, 2018, 10:29:21 AM MST, Richard Hammersley <
> rhhammersley at xxxxx> wrote:
> Yes Iceman's analogy with language is a good one. I am a much better
> writer than I am a harmonica player but I went to school just after grammar
> and rules of English had been dropped from the curriculum, this held me
> back as a writer until I learned about grammar studying psycholinguistics
> and foreign languages as an adult.
> Not only are there received grammars, for instance of English, but
> supposedly ungrammatical ‘dialects’ also have grammars just as solid as the
> received English one. The amazing example (to me in the late 1970s) was
> William Labov’s work on African American English. Similarly musics that
> play the ‘wrong’ notes or include microtones (as much early blues does)
> have orderly structures. Finally, circling back to harmonica, it is
> fascinating how much effort some diatonic harmonica players devote to
> playing only all the ‘right’ notes precisely in tune, often with highly
> impressive results. But to quote James Blood Ulcer about his guitar playing
> "The tuning I use totally eliminates sounding like a piano, and that’s
> what I’m reaching for. That’s the next thing I want to do with Mats and
> them, is to play with that tuning. They will put it right into that
> original sound where there’s no chords, no scales, no modulation—just
> getting away from that western, European piano thing."
> I prefer it when harmonica does not sound like a piano or, more
> accurately, an accordion.
> Richard
> PS - for those interested Ulmer’s guitar tuning is, I think actually two
> notes 1st and 5th, either D A D A A D or E B E B B E. No, I have no plans
> to retune a harmonica like this.
> > On 29 Oct 2018, at 11:57, The Iceman <icemanle at xxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Richard sez:
> > <<Once you understand the musical rules you can choose to break them,
> but you need to understand them first because it takes knowledge and skill
> to break the rules in ways that are musically enjoyable, exciting or
> effective, rather than sounding terrible or incompetent.>>
> >
> > I don't know what they do in 2nd grade here in the US any longer, but I
> remember having to learn all the rules about English, even though I was
> speaking it fluently (although very simplified) already.
> >
> > Anyone else remember having to diagram sentences with those straight and
> diagonal lines on which you would write the words?
> >
> > This only helped me along later as I chose to improve my speaking and
> writing skills, so I learned all the rules and how they applied. Eventually
> I was able to break the rules in search of a personalized style. As a
> matter of fact, I realize now that I've actually forgotten a lot of the
> rules, yet my skills have remained and improved over the years.
> >
> > So, to me it was worthwhile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Hammersley <rhhammersley at xxxxx>
> >

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