[Harp-L] All this Positions and Modes stuff

[dh@xxxxx]

I agree with the first part that was my point a mode becomes a mode in context unless you play alone
Rapidly changing tonal center current tonal center defines the mode this is true as a classic approach but proved wrong in modern jazz in many instances as the improviser can very much define a center itself or use compositional methods to kind of "override" the tonal center

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From: Harp-L <harp-l-bounces at xxxxx> On Behalf Of Michael Rubin
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Subject: Re: [Harp-L] All this Positions and Modes stuff

Actually the starting and the end note have little to do with a mode.  The rhythm bass and chordal instruments' root notes of either the key to the song or, in a song rapidly changing tonal centers with the chords, the current tonal center defines the mode.

For example, I could start on B and end on F and never play a G note, I am still using the G mixolydian scale if the band is in the key of G and I hit only white keys.



On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:17 AM philharpn--- via Harp-L <harp-l at xxxxx>
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> The difference is the starting point and ending point.
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> The notes in the  C scale starting  G to G yields the G mixolydian; 
> the C scale starting C to C yields a C major and a C scale starting A 
> to A yields an A minor. Yet they comprise the same notes.
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> <<Saying that G Mixolydian is the same as C Major is analogous to 
> saying A minor and C major are the same.
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> They aren't.>>
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> I'm with Arthur. They are not the same, even though they are comprised 
> of the same notes.
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> make his house the same as his stand alone garage?
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