[Harp-L] All this Positions and Modes stuff

[Arthur Jennings]

Saying that G Mixolydian is the same as C Major is analogous to saying A minor and C major are the same. 

They aren't.

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:12 PM, dh at xxxxx wrote:
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> " Yes, if you're playing a G scale on a C harp, you're in second position, regardless of which G scale you're playing'
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> 1/ Well I'm very sorry but G mixolydian (GABCDEF) - a G scale that everybody uses all the time to play 2nd position is actually our good old  C major scale (CDEFGAB) !!!
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> So you’re telling me now that playing a C scale on a C harmonica is playing 2nd position ???!!! just because I started on the G ?
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> 2/ I'm sorry even twice when I play G dorian (GABbCDEF) which is also a G scale that a lot of players use all the time as 2nd position playing that is actually the F major scale (FGABbCDE) !!!
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> So you’re telling me that playing in F on a C harmonica is also playing in 2nd position ?
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> 3/ I'm confused but sorry again when I play a bluegrass tune in G major (GABCDEF#) on a C harmonica because well it is also a G scale but still not the same as the other 2
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> Wait a minute ... Did I just say that playing in C major, F Major and G major is playing in 2nd position ??? !!!
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> Oh maybe playing in 2nd position is just playing whatever you want and call it 2nd position ?
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> 
> I spent a few hundred hours transcribing little Walter, Big Walter Horton and Charlie Mc Coy solos when I was 13/14 and was drawing tabs of the 2nd position as I was told those tunes were 2nd position
> I quickly understood that none of them were the same thus making No sense whatsoever to use the system of positions
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harp-L <harp-l-bounces at xxxxx> On Behalf Of Arthur Jennings via Harp-L
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: Jerome P. <jersimuse at xxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l <harp-l at xxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] All this Positions and Modes stuff
> 
> Yes, if you're playing a G scale on a C harp, you're in second position, regardless of which G scale you're playing.
> 
> Trying to stretch the definition of position to account for tonality, altered tunings or chromatic button status winds up complicating the issue past the point of usefulness, in my opinion.
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Jerome P. <jersimuse at xxxxx> wrote:
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>> ok, others would have a different definition, but why not.
>> So, considering this definition, what is the answer to my question ?
>> BTW, which root note are we talking about ? The one of the harmony, G 
>> ? the root of the mode I'm playing with ? The root of the scale from 
>> which the mode comes from ?
>> Would you consider here that I play in 2nd position all the way long ?
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>>> Le dim. 28 oct. 2018 à 22:04, Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman at xxxxx> a écrit :
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>>> Winslow Yerxa says positions are named by the root note, not the 
>>> flavor of scale.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Jerome P. <jersimuse at xxxxx> wrote:
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>>> In which position or positions have I just played ?
>>> 
>>> 
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