[Harp-L] Positions Modes and the Harp_L List.
The Iceman
icemanle@xxxxx
Sat Oct 27 22:41:33 EDT 2018
I'm not obligated to prove anything to you, btw....that is not the debate here...
What is learned from the Perfect Pitch course is how to translate what you hear into a mental picture reference point of color and has nothing to do with memorizing specific pitches one at a time.
Once you begin to retrain your brain to associate something definite as a mental image (in this case, color) to what your ear perceives as definite pitch, you begin to develop "color hearing". The trick is to make this new linkeage in your brain, and it does take a while for it to develop...
The only parallel experience I can offer that is more mainstream is when one learns a new language.
At first, the main reference point in the brain is the native language. Then, one slowly starts to assimilate new words (from the new language) by attaching them to what your brain already understands intuitively.
It works like this - "Purple" is my native English word for a particular color that my brain has been taught to recognize through the eyes. In German, that word is "lila". So, I attach "lila" internally to the word "purple" to assimilate in the new language. Eventually, when German becomes more fluent, one is able to bypass that awkward "lila" = "purple" = that particular color seen by the eyes and one arrives at "lila" = that particular color seen by the eyes. Multiply this times MANY words (that become sentences). Since we "think" in words and sentences, eventually one wakes up and realizes he is able to "think" in German, bypassing that awkward attachment to English words. Then one can speak fluently and it becomes as natural as your native language. The brain is retooled and you become bi-lingual where once you only could speak/think in one language.
With "color hearing", the sound begins to translate into a definite visual image - bridging the gap between sight and sound in a sense, combining them in a new way in your brain. To me, each "color" seemed to suggest a "feeling".
For example, the key of "C" and that root note feel "white" - boring, flat, somewhat unexciting and plain. Like white Wonder Bread. Therefore, this note/key invokes that feeling/image in my brain/emotions.
Each note/key has it's own color/emotion. I started with David's suggestion of "F#" being "Fiery Red" - burning hot. From there, I started to personalize all the other pitches to what felt natural to me.
Once again, it takes dedication, time, and most importantly, a total open mind to a new experience. Sadly, most who go down this path possess none of these and give up quickly or truly do not believe it is possible deep down inside and therefore, never allow themselves to approach understanding.
For me, some days are better than others when I want to turn this new brain feature on.
All I can say is, it is great fun once your brain starts to think in this new language. As a musician, it unlocks a LOT of the secrets of music even as you are listening in real time.
For me, some days are better than others when I want to turn this new brain feature on.
I demonstrated it to Carlos del Junco in the 90's by singing the note of "F#" out of thin air (I was just getting into this and that was the only pitch I was confident with to start) and he promptly obtained the cassette tape Burge series. I do not know how far he went into it or if he followed it through to the end, but it definitely convinced him that it was possible!
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From: Arthur Jennings <arturojennings at xxxxx>
To: The Iceman <icemanle at xxxxx>
Cc: harp-l <harp-l at xxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Positions Modes and the Harp_L List.
I look forward to viewing a demonstration of what you learned.
On Oct 27, 2018, at 2:57 PM, The Iceman <icemanle at xxxxx> wrote:
What you listed is the ability of folk who have or learn to have perfect pitch and is totally doable through the course offered.
Apparently you haven't experienced his Perfect Pitch course because your definition of "seem to be" is incorrect.
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From: Arthur Jennings <arturojennings at xxxxx>
To: The Iceman <icemanle at xxxxx>
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Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Positions Modes and the Harp_L List.
David Lucas Burge's courses seem to be based on memorizing specific pitches one at a time. Even if that worked, it isn't absolute pitch. People with absolute pitch can:
Identify by name individual pitches (e.g. F♯, A, G, C) played on various instruments.
Name the key of a given piece of tonal music.
Reproduce a piece of tonal music in the correct key days after hearing it.[citation needed]
Identify and name all the tones of a given chord or other tonal mass.
Accurately sing a named pitch.
Name the pitches of common everyday sounds such as car horns and alarms.
Name the frequency of a pitch (e.g. that G♯4 is 415Hz) after hearing it.
all without referring to a reference tone, given or memorized.
This is what children with absolute pitch can do:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cb1qwCUvI
If anyone learned to do this as an adult, post a similar video.
On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:32 AM, The Iceman via Harp-L <harp-l at xxxxx> wrote:
David Lucas Burge
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