[Harp-L] Perfect Pitch / It's childs play :)

[Michael Rubin]

Although the guy in the video may be correct, his method for coming up with
his conclusion in unscientific.  His understanding of how to create perfect
pitch in a child is unscientific.

This guy played complex music to his baby, wound up with a kid with perfect
pitch and thinks that makes him an expert.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 5:35 AM Joseph Leone <3N037 at xxxxx> wrote:

> This is wonderful Arthur. You are always a source of good skinny.
> smo-joe
>
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Arthur Jennings <arturojennings at xxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > In one of Beato's videos he quizzes his son Dylan using a keyboard tuned
> a quarter-tone flat. Dylan successfully recognizes the two pitches the
> keyboard is playing between.
> >
> > It's at about 3:20:
> > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEmaBqjUmY&t=636s <
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEmaBqjUmY&t=636s>
> >
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Joseph Leone <3N037 at xxxxx <mailto:
> 3N037 at xxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:09 AM, Laurent Vigouroux <
> laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx <mailto:laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey hey
> >>> I'm trying to educate my newborn daughter's ear thanks to Rick Beato
> advice and application.
> >>> I'll tell you in 10 years if it works __
> >>>
> >>> Le 18/11/2018 03:51, « Harp-L au nom de F F » <
> harp-l-bounces at xxxxx <mailto:harp-l-bounces at xxxxx> au nom de
> franze52 at xxxxx <mailto:franze52 at xxxxx>> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>
> >>>   [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.n3D4EU4dP5s8w6DuReXbSQHgFo&pid=Api <
> https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.n3D4EU4dP5s8w6DuReXbSQHgFo&pid=Api>]<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>>
> >>>
> >>>   Why Adults Can't Develop Perfect Pitch<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>>
> >>>   I am responding to the hundreds of adult musicians that are mad at
> me for telling them the truth about Perfect Pitch. Unless you are a baby
> reading this, forget about ...
> >>>   www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So, I’m sitting in McDonald’s with a musician friend and this is what
> I came up with.
> >> 1… I’m assuming that the piano in the video was in tune. The boy picked
> the notes out. Amazing.
> >> 2… BUT what IF the piano was tuned one note LOW or one note HIGH? Ok, I
> would STILL expect the boy to pick out the notes.
> >> 3… BUT if he were a musician, could he play that piano? I suspect that
> at the very least he would be confused. As ALL the notes would be under
> DIFFERENT keys.
> >> 3a. (me? I would use a guitar..much easier to change the tunings.)
> >> 3b. Would he be able to play a guitar that was ‘mis’ tuned one note
> high or low? The notes being on DIFFERENT  frets?
> >> 4… What if we tuned to beTWEEN notes. In other words sour or sharp? In
> other words out of tune. What would that be? 50 cents up or down? I don’t
> know.
> >> 5… In that case, I would expect the boy to say “That’s not a Bb, it’s
> too high” and “That’s not a B, too low”. Or would he stare into space?
> >>
> >> Scenario: 6 guys are sitting at a table in the lobby and having a jazz
> jam. 5 are playing C chromatics. 1 is holding a Bb. Michael Peloquin calls
> a tune in Eb. the 5 guys are
> >> having no problem playing the tune on THEIR C chromos. The 1 is having
> no problem playing that same tune in Eb. BUT he has to play in the F
> fingering. What’s THAT called?
> >>
> >> Scenario: A fantastic ear player is playing a tune in F on a C chromo.
> He ONLY uses a C chromo. Another guy is harmonizing. The C player get this
> pained look on his face,
> >> is having trouble concentrating. Why? It turns out that it WASN’T
> because that second player was doing anything wrong. It was because that
> second player wasn’t playing the
> >> same notes as the first player. And it was throwing off his ears.
> >>
> >> I suppose that a person with perfect pitch has a note LOCKED into their
> brain and then everything is referenced from that. It is much better to
> have NO note locked into your
> >> brain and have a free mind and adjust to ANY pitch change
> extemporaneously. And as far as pitch goes, if 440 is the current standard,
> what did people do when the standard was
> >> 400? Aaargh. Instruments are never perfectly in tune anyway. Close but
> not possible. I can see the tuner move. It is never perfectly still. So
> from the time you tune something, it
> >> is already going out of pitch. Imperceptibly..maybe. But still doing
> it.
> >>
> >> Just some cranial drippings. No offense intended. Use for educational
> purposes only. lololol.
> >> smokey joe & the cafe’s (only one of which is still alive)
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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