[Harp-L] Perfect Pitch / It's childs play :)

Joseph Leone 3N037@xxxxx
Sun Nov 18 13:32:39 EST 2018


This is wonderful Arthur. You are always a source of good skinny. 
smo-joe

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Arthur Jennings <arturojennings at xxxxx> wrote:
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> In one of Beato's videos he quizzes his son Dylan using a keyboard tuned a quarter-tone flat. Dylan successfully recognizes the two pitches the keyboard is playing between. 
> 
> It's at about 3:20:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEmaBqjUmY&t=636s <https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEmaBqjUmY&t=636s>
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> On Nov 18, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Joseph Leone <3N037 at xxxxx <mailto:3N037 at xxxxx>> wrote:
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>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:09 AM, Laurent Vigouroux <laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx <mailto:laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx>> wrote:
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>>> Hey hey
>>> I'm trying to educate my newborn daughter's ear thanks to Rick Beato advice and application.
>>> I'll tell you in 10 years if it works __
>>> 
>>> Le 18/11/2018 03:51, « Harp-L au nom de F F » <harp-l-bounces at xxxxx <mailto:harp-l-bounces at xxxxx> au nom de franze52 at xxxxx <mailto:franze52 at xxxxx>> a écrit :
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>>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>
>>>   [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.n3D4EU4dP5s8w6DuReXbSQHgFo&pid=Api <https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.n3D4EU4dP5s8w6DuReXbSQHgFo&pid=Api>]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>>
>>> 
>>>   Why Adults Can't Develop Perfect Pitch<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>>
>>>   I am responding to the hundreds of adult musicians that are mad at me for telling them the truth about Perfect Pitch. Unless you are a baby reading this, forget about ...
>>>   www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>
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>>> 
>>> So, I’m sitting in McDonald’s with a musician friend and this is what I came up with.
>> 1… I’m assuming that the piano in the video was in tune. The boy picked the notes out. Amazing. 
>> 2… BUT what IF the piano was tuned one note LOW or one note HIGH? Ok, I would STILL expect the boy to pick out the notes. 
>> 3… BUT if he were a musician, could he play that piano? I suspect that at the very least he would be confused. As ALL the notes would be under DIFFERENT keys. 
>> 3a. (me? I would use a guitar..much easier to change the tunings.)
>> 3b. Would he be able to play a guitar that was ‘mis’ tuned one note high or low? The notes being on DIFFERENT  frets? 
>> 4… What if we tuned to beTWEEN notes. In other words sour or sharp? In other words out of tune. What would that be? 50 cents up or down? I don’t know.
>> 5… In that case, I would expect the boy to say “That’s not a Bb, it’s too high” and “That’s not a B, too low”. Or would he stare into space?
>> 
>> Scenario: 6 guys are sitting at a table in the lobby and having a jazz jam. 5 are playing C chromatics. 1 is holding a Bb. Michael Peloquin calls a tune in Eb. the 5 guys are 
>> having no problem playing the tune on THEIR C chromos. The 1 is having no problem playing that same tune in Eb. BUT he has to play in the F fingering. What’s THAT called?
>> 
>> Scenario: A fantastic ear player is playing a tune in F on a C chromo. He ONLY uses a C chromo. Another guy is harmonizing. The C player get this pained look on his face, 
>> is having trouble concentrating. Why? It turns out that it WASN’T because that second player was doing anything wrong. It was because that second player wasn’t playing the
>> same notes as the first player. And it was throwing off his ears.
>> 
>> I suppose that a person with perfect pitch has a note LOCKED into their brain and then everything is referenced from that. It is much better to have NO note locked into your
>> brain and have a free mind and adjust to ANY pitch change extemporaneously. And as far as pitch goes, if 440 is the current standard, what did people do when the standard was 
>> 400? Aaargh. Instruments are never perfectly in tune anyway. Close but not possible. I can see the tuner move. It is never perfectly still. So from the time you tune something, it
>> is already going out of pitch. Imperceptibly..maybe. But still doing it. 
>> 
>> Just some cranial drippings. No offense intended. Use for educational purposes only. lololol.
>> smokey joe & the cafe’s (only one of which is still alive)  
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