[Harp-L] Inner ear monitor

[Larry Sandy]

See, that's what I'm talking about..... others too loud for me to hear myself clearly.  Unfortunately I have no control of their volume, only mine.  And if I crank it up and they cannot hear themselves, well, the loudness spiral commences.  Time to take a seat.  Or get out the in ear monitors.
LockjawHearing tinnitus tunes daily
 

    On Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:28 PM, Joseph Leone <3n037 at xxxxx> wrote:
 

 I have been playing in supper clubs for decades and decades and my own personal feeling (others may differ), is that if you are having trouble hearing yourself, the band is too loud. 
If you are using a mike and still can’t hear yourself, the band is too loud. Most people have hearing that can handle a huge range and volume of sound(s). So I would be wary of over
volume. They either aren’t interested in hearing the many nuances of the shaped tones of a harmonica…or they’re deaf. Sorry if I have offended anyone. 

smokey-joe

p.s. we have used Greg Heuman’s mikes at our jazz jams for years. They give you everything you need to have.  

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Larry Youmans via Harp-L <harp-l at xxxxx> wrote:
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> I determined long ago that if I cannot hear myself then I won't play.  There are so many adjustments on each harp while playing, so many beautiful nuances but unless one can clearly hear themselves those notes just are not produced.  Seen it way too many times.  Don't wanna sound like an amateur.  Greg is right about in ear monitors.  I don't use mine but know that I should sometimes.
> 
> Lockjaw Larry
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:21 PM, Greg Heumann <greg at xxxxx> wrote:
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>> In-ear monitors can be awesome BUT - they only work if you have a very good sound guy actively managing the monitor mix. Once you put ANY sort of ear plug in your ear, you will hear yourself extremely loud relative to the rest of the band. Just try plugging one ear while you’re playing...  That means you will have trouble keeping time and managing your volume relative to the whole band. In short - in-ear monitors are for pros with pro sound guys supporting them. For anyone else - they are a very expensive experiment that you’ll find very hard to manage. 
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>> Learning to hear yourself on stage is a SKILL. You have to understand how your gear affects it, how a monitor mix (which can be very troublesome from a feedback perspective) interacts - etc. And ultimately there are times when you have to play KNOWING you’re playing the right stuff when you can’t hear yourself. That is sub-optimal and certainly scary for newer players - but as you become better and better at playing intentionally instead of reactively, the easier it becomes. 
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>> /Greg
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>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:00:33 -0700
>>> From: ian osborn <davidianosborn at xxxxx>
>>> To: Harp L <harp-l at xxxxx>
>>> Subject: [Harp-L] Inner ear monitor
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>>> Anyone use the inner ear monitor?! How do they like it?? I find unless the
>>> sound guy is awesome I have problems hearing myself out of the
>>> monitor/main/PA
>>> 
>>> Ian