Re: [Harp-L] re melodica tall paul sabel

[paul oscher <poblues2@xxxxxxxxx>]

Winslow hows everything goin the last time i saw you was at the
sanfrancisco blues fest.Thanks for that information i really didnt know
exactly how musette tuning works but the hohner accordion guy contacted me
after i posted that and said they will try to make pedal that simulates
musette tuning and im sure they can mmake those adjustments even four
sounds instead two and tempering the tremelo tuning in the lower range it
would a pretty cool pedal for the melodica . Thanks again for your insights
i dont want give bad information but i said in my post describing musette
tuning that i think that means etc so nobody would take it as absolute fact
thank you for the clarification.

Paul
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 21:50 Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Cajun accordion will actually have as many as 4 reeds going at once on any
> particular note:
>
> -- Main note
>
> -- Detuned note for musette/tremolo (more on that below)
>
> -- Octave lower (bassoon reed)
>
> -- Octave higher (piccolo reed)
>
> Creating tremolo by tuning to a fixed offset, such as A445 (or 20 cents
> sharp of A440) has a problem. Let's say the reed that sounds A440 has a
> tremolo reed that sounds A445. You'll hear the difference as 5 beats
> (pulsations) per second. Which is fine. But if you stayed with that 20-cent
> difference an octave lower you'll have 220 and 222.5, which is very slow
> and might not sound like enough tremolo. An octave higher tha A440, you'll
> have 880 and 890, or 10 beats a second, which is butting up against
> uncomfortably fast, while an octave above that you'll have 1760 and 1780 -
> or 20 beats/second, which is guaranteed painful.
>
> Accordion tuners have several schemes for tempering tremolo reeds so that
> they don't beat too slow on the low end or too fast on the high end. A
> feature that tunes by a fixed offset won't give you that tempering and you
> may not like the results, unless you tune for a specific range and then
> play within it.
>
> Winslow Yerxa
> Producer, the Harmonica Collective
> Author, Harmonica For Dummies, Second Edition: ISBN 978-1-118-88076-0
>             Harmonica Basics For Dummies, ASIN B005KIYPFS
>             Blues Harmonica For Dummies, ISBN 978-1-1182-5269-7
> Resident Expert, bluesharmonica.com
> Instructor, Jazzschool Community Music School
> President emeritus, SPAH, the Society for the Preservation and Advancement
> of the Harmonica
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: paul oscher <poblues2@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:10 PM
> Subject: [Harp-L] re melodica tall paul sabel
>
>
> Paul thanks for the kind words.
> I've been aware of the mini vent pedal for some time they say its the best
> leslie simulator. They come in two types one for guitar and one for organ.
> i need to AB those pedals to see which one responds best to the melodica
> mic signal. i haven't done that because the local stores in Austin tx don't
> carry them. But maybe when i get to L.A. in Jan i might get one but that
> wasn't type of pedal i was discussing in my post.
>
> I'm looking for a pedal ,which to my knowledge has not yet been made, that
> would simulate the sound of a double reed cajun accordion. it woulds be
> tuned to musette tuning . i think that means one reed is 445 tuned and the
> other is 440. The technology to do that is out there i.e. octave pedals
> harmonizers etc in my pedal it would be just doubling the note and second
> note would be at 445. That way you could play a melodica and sound like
> Clifton Chenier or other great Cajun players. Could also be used for gypsy
> jazz on melodica and for accordion.
>
> I've had that idea for a number of years but never got anybody to build it,
>
> Paul
>