Re: [Harp-L] Re: Overdraw overbend overblow - now upbend

[Rick Dempster <rickdempster33@xxxxxxxxx>]

Why not just say "blow bend" or "draw bend"? "Blow bend hole 1"  is
obviously an 'overblow' and "Draw bend hole 9" obviously an "overdraw".
There's no need for any other description.
RD


On 11 February 2014 22:07, Rick Dempster <rickdempster33@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> All full bends are 'up' bends.When you draw hole one down to C# on a C
> harp, you are playing the blow reed in reverse, exactly the same as an
> 'overbend'. The C reed plays in reverse as C#. Only the partial bends could
> be called 'down' ie Bb or A at draw 3 on a C harp.
> So, no, sorry, I wouldn't adopt that term.
> RD
>
>
> On 11 February 2014 18:16, Mike Best <mike.d.best@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Well I guess now that you've asked, I don't like the term "upbend".  I
>> think
>> overblow (holes 1-6) and overdraw (holes 7-10) are fine.  But I'm not
>> gonna
>> argue about it, especially if I'm going to be held responsible for the
>> death
>> ray...
>> Cheers
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Overdraw overbend overblow - now upbend
>>
>> I agree with Michael and again propose that the term 'upbend' be  adopted
>> to
>> replace all terms such as overblows,  overdraws or overbends.  Upbend is
>> brief and to the  point, more accurately descriptive, and therefore much
>> less  confusing than the current vernacular.
>>
>> The description needn't be further complicated by blow &  draw
>> considerations.  Just as with conventional bends that lower pitch,
>>  upbends
>> can only be employed in a particular hole depending on whether you  are
>> blowing or drawing.  We do not  typically distinguish 'normal' bends on
>> the
>> basis of blow or  draw when describing them, we just call it a bend.  Why
>> then is  there a
>> need to make this distinction with the reverse technique?    Just as with
>> conventional bends, a seasoned player knows where a blow  or draw upbend
>> is
>> available, and just as with conventional bends a  beginner can be further
>> instructed when the need is  present.
>>
>> Anyone else like the term upbend?  Anyone hate it?  Any  other thoughts or
>> proposals for refining  this terminology?   This needs fixing, there's
>> growing  concern that the continued use of the confusing terms will cause
>> the earth to  tilt off axis, and thus eliminate the proven 'death ray'
>> effect produced by  our instruments.  Invading aliens will surely then
>> move
>> in and
>> force us all to play banjos!  SPAH would  become SPAB   -shudder-
>>
>> Christopher Richards
>> Twin Tone Microphones - Tone Defender Cables Harmonicaplanet.com
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/10/2014 1:10:38 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>> harp-l-request@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
>>
>> Perhaps  a better term for bending would be descended bend and a better
>> term
>> for  overblows  would be ascended bend.  But I guarantee there would  be
>> problems with that as well.  These are the terms we use, I suggest  taking
>> the time to make sure you understand and are speaking them correctly  and
>> move on from there.
>> Michael  Rubin
>>
>>
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