[Harp-L] Shifted Richter Inversions or SBS tuning (see "bendability" thread of 2006)
- To: "Jonathan Ross" <jross38@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [Harp-L] Shifted Richter Inversions or SBS tuning (see "bendability" thread of 2006)
- From: "Juke Geezer \(aka Steve Hayes\)" <bigbandrhythm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:11:30 -0700
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I replied to a message about Steve Baker Special tuning about a month ago and mentioned I've had a couple 10-holers configured for cross harp starting on 1 draw.. (holes 2-11 of the SBS.) Like this:
Blow: E G C E G C E G C E
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: G B D G B D F A B D
These shifted Richter tunings help me capture blues runs by alto sax players who can cover the range of a low D harp holes 1-9: D3-A5.
These modified harps extend the lower range in a familiar pattern (a la SBS) at the expense of the high notes that I don't need for this project. It is working great, with the two harps I had Seydel configure for me Bb/LD and Db/LF. Now, I should probably start making my own.
My experience, so far, has been very positive and I tend to favor these new tunings over standard Richter.
I did the tuning arithmetic and came up with this (for C):
First Inversion C/E, (G/G):
Start with a Low Eb harp
Blow: Eb G Bb Eb G Bb Eb G Bb Eb
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: F Bb D F Ab C D F Ab C
Tune change in half-steps:
Blow: +1 0 +2 +1 0 +2 +1 0 +2 +1
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: +2 +1 0 +2 +3 +2 +1 +4 +3 +2
Result:
Blow: E G C E G C E G C E
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: G B D G B D F A B D
Second Inversion C/G, (G/B) (shifted Richter, a la Jonathan Ross):
Start with a G harp
Blow: G B D G B D G B D G
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: A D F# A C E F# A C E
Tune change in half-steps:
Blow: 0 +1 +2 0 +1 +2 0 +1 +2 0
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: +2 0 +1 +2 +2 +1 +3 +2 +2 +1
Result:
Blow: G C E G C E G C E G
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: B D G B D F A B D F
Low Root Position (a la Steve Baker):
Start with a low C harp
Blow: C E G C E G C E G C
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: D G B D F A B D F A
Tune change in half-steps:
Blow: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: 0 0 0 0 +2 +2 +3 +3 +4 +2
Result:
Blow: C E G C E G C E G C
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: D G B D G B D F A B
[There are 1st and 2nd inversions of SBS, too, but these would be better suited to 12-holes or more, assuming you like holes 7 and 8 on a normal Richter.]
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I looked to see if anyone on the list had similar ideas. I searched the harp-l archives and found the thread "bendability" in which Jonathan Ross commented as follows:
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I've been thinking lately about retuning some so that the
tonic is in the second hole rather than the first to get around this.
Thus, I'd have a C-harp with this layout:
Blow: G C E G C E G C E G
Hole: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Draw: B D G B D F A B D F
Actually, I'd probably tinker with this a bit anyway, just to fine-tune
it, but you get the basic idea--while the blow note in hole 1 would be
G, the key would still be C because the blow chord is still a C chord
(just it starts with the second inversion).
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There isnât much else out there on this topic yet.
I would love to hear from those who have tried tunings like those described above, or with harp-tuning experience.
What is the feasibility of raising a draw note a major third on brass or stainless reeds for holes 8 or 9? I would working with low harps such as Low F, Low Eb. I guess Iâll find out.
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