Re: [Harp-L] Bending from both sides of the mouth

[David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Then I stand humbly corrected. 

 
David Payne
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 From: Joe Spiers <harpwrench@xxxxxxxxx>
To: David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: Harp L Harp L <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Bending from both sides of the mouth
 
Ability to bend the 1-4 draw octave (in tune together) is one of the parameters I verify on my custom harmonicas, not a problem!
Joe S
http://www.spiersharmonicas.com


On Nov 3, 2012, at 2:20 PM, David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> There is a problem of physics that has to be overcome. All the ones you mention the 3 and 6 and the 2 and 5 are two different notes. The 5 can barely bend at all, so it's probably the easiest. You are essentially bending the 2, while the 5 bends very little at all. I wonder if you can bend the 2 down to F (on a C). That would be cool.
> When you are bending down the 1-4, there are four reeds involved, the draw reeds initially, then the blow reeds engage as you draw bend. Each of the lower reeds has a corresponding reed exactly one octave above. That's the same for both blow and draw sets.
> When you bend that 1-4 draw at the same time, there is a problem. The 1 and 4 bend differently. The 1, I think will bend the most - this leads to a difference in pitch and they will start beating. I would imagine that's why you wouldn't see Howard doing it. I've had them to the point of beating, just experimenting around. I don't know if there is a limit to what can be done, I never really tried to make it happen as a technique. I think if you had bent them down to beating, you would have mentioned that, so I guess you haven't bent that far, but once you do, that's what you'll have. 
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> David Payne
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> From: martin oldsberg <martinoldsberg@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 7:59 PM
> Subject: [Harp-L] Bending from both sides of the mouth
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> Bending down hole 2D while holding the interval at 5D is not very hard, even for a "tongue challenged" guy as myself. ( I avoid TB (to much spit) and thus can´t do those chucka-chucka slaps that are so very popular ... and just a tad tedious, if I may say so, but that´s probably just the sour grapes talking.) 
>   I can also bend down to a fair approximation of the 3DD-6D octave, even if that one sounds too shaky to take outside.
>   What I can´t do is bending 1D and 4D down simultaneously, no matter how hard I try. 
>   Any pointers for how to do this -- is it possible? (Of course it is, H Levy can probably do it.)
>  
> Cheers,
> Martin