[Harp-L] Stevie wonder Algiers
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Can anyone describe how to achieve the " pizzicato"
Sound Stevie wonder gets in the Alfie performance
Thanks
Dave
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> 1. Re: Stevie Wonder plays Suzuki at the White House (Rob Paparozzi)
> 2. Subject: [Harp-L] Slide lubricant (was Koch Chromatic)
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> 3. Re: Koch Chromatic (Timothy Kane)
> 4. OT Check out google.com for a working moog synth (michael rubin)
> 5. Re: Koch Chromatic (gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx)
> 6. "Race, Gender & the Blues" (Mick Zaklan)
> 7. Re: Koch Chromatic (philharpn@xxxxxxx)
> 8. My band's kickstarter campaign (Hopefully this is list
> appropriate) (michael rubin)
> 9. Re: XB-40 (David Fairweather)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:27:51 -0400
> From: "Rob Paparozzi" <chromboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Stevie Wonder plays Suzuki at the White House
> To: "Brendan Power" <bren@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Harp-L'"
> <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Thanx for postin' this Brendan, Slim & Randy....
>
> I just watched it....so sweet! he sings it in F and mods up to Bb for the
> Harp Version...The Sirius sound SO sweet ~~~~!
>
> The conductor and arranger is NY's very Talented Rob Mounsey...I also spied
> my friend Vaneese Thomas on Stage an amazing singer (Rufus Thomas' daughter)
>
>
> Bravo Stevie and big congrats to Burt & Hal....what great tunes they've
> given us to blow on!
>
> Best,
> Rob Paparozzi
>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Stevie Wonder plays Suzuki at the White House
>
>
>> Check out this great clip of Stevie singing and playing Alfie at the White
>> House. The chromatic is a Suzuki Sirius S-64C:
>>
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>> http://video.pbs.org/video/2236012135
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:19:40 -0400 (EDT)
> From: EGS1217@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Subject: [Harp-L] Slide lubricant (was Koch Chromatic)
> To: linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Chuck:
>
> I'm SO with Gary on this. He's not the only customizer/harmonica
> repairperson to feel this way. It's a lousy job to work on other folks' harmonicas,
> especially the really filthy ones. ANY lubricant automatically attracts
> dust, dirt or worse. If you're not cleaning it out regularly yourself and plan
> to send it to someone else to work on, then don't use anything which could
> work its way into the reeds or windsavers because you just might find the
> repairperson returning it to you with a 'no thanks'. No harmonica
> repairperson gets rich doing what they do for a living. Trust me.
>
>
>
> When chromatic players talk about using anything other than water as a
> slide lubricant (technically you shouldn't need anything at all if it's kept
> scrupulously clean) they're talking about MINISCULE amounts of these
> substances..maybe something like astroglide (yes, sold just for this purpose), but
> such a tiny dab you scarcely see it. What would work BETTER for the slide
> assembly is to first make sure all its parts are clean and straight (with
> no debris impeding the assembly itself) and no build up of saliva salts or
> crud (sorry, have to call it what it is), then make sure the mouthpiece
> isn't over-tightened onto the chromatic (a major cause of slides hanging up:
> EVERY chromatic newbie overtightens. IF it still isn't moving smoothly enough
> it might need deburring or gasketing. I suspect a bent slide assembly by
> your mentioning the slide being off target. It was likely dropped at some
> point. That's enough to crimp any one of the MP parts to hang up the slide.
>
>
>
> My windsavers have never 'clicked'. What they do when they're beginning to
> stick together (the bane of chromatic players) is 'pop'. (If you're
> hearing a metallic click it's not the windsavers, but something else). There are
> countless discussions on how to clean them --Dave Payne's talked about this
> at length and has shown it in videos: a piece of wet brown paper dabbed
> onto bar soap slid between the two layers of the windsaver. Sissi Jones
> describes this as well.
>
>
>
> If you go to Hohner's website they have an excellent new series of videos
> hosted by Steve Baker showing step by step just how to maintain and solve a
> lot of these chromatic problems. I posted a link to ALL of them within the
> last couple of months. You can look in the harp-l archives if you prefer.
>
>
>
> But Koch's aren't supposed to HAVE windsavers anyway. Now somebody could
> have so disliked the inherent airiness of your instrument and installed
> valves, but afaik they don't come with them stock. (Today one can valve just
> about any harmonica--or half-valve it - all for interesting tunings, so
> finding valves is no indication of how the instrument came from the factory). I
> have a Koch and it's in as pristine condition as when I first got it years
> ago. Tried it once, hated it and put it away. It sucks air - literally. I
> guess it's a decent enough instrument for those who live in frigid conditions
> and want to play outdoors --but that old cartoon about the kid with his
> tongue frozen to the telephone pole always flashes into my brain whenever I
> visualize trying to play it in such adverse conditions. I'd rather wait to
> play until I'm in the car with the heater on (as a passenger), and my
> CX-12's and me are sufficiently warmed up. It's one reason why there's an
> on-going discussion of 'the best portable heating method for chromatics' on the
> slidemeister website.
>
>
>
> If you want a decent ten-hole chromatic (I still play mine though not
> often), you could get a Hohner 260. Someone's selling one on EBay new old stock
> beginning at $9.99 starting today.
>
>
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> "Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:53:08 +0000
> From: gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Harp-L] Slide lubricant (was Koch Chromatic)
> To: "Chuck Linville" <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Harp-l _harp-l@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx)
>
>
> Reason I would not recommend using a lubricant on a slide is that I work
> on other people's harmonicas and find that the lubricant works its way
> inside the harmonica.
> Since I don't make a lot of money from working on other people's
> harmonicas I am reluctant to do the hard work of cleaning the gunk out of their
> harmonicas.
> G
> ******
>
> "Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 20:20:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
> To: Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> "
> I never recommend putting lubricant on a slide. " Really? That's
> interesting. May I ask why? (Gotcha on the embossing though!) -chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, 22 May 2012 16:42:55 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
>
> I have found that embossing the reedslots with help make a Koch more
> airtight. Also, some Koch's don't have windsavers. And I never recommend putting
> lubricant on a slide.Gary
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all. I'm working on a Koch 10 hole chromatic. Any tips on reducing
> leakage? I did find that the slider is off to the right just a tad and needs
> to be tweaked in. I also hear a little "clicking" from what I presume are
> the windsavers on a couple of reeds. I'm not seeing any cracks in the comb,
> at least from the outside. Anything else I should be looking for? How about
> the slide itself? Are these generally lubricated with something? Thanks!
> -chuck
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:46:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
> To: Harp-L <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Rockin Ron tells meïHohner discontinued the Slide Harp a year or so ago, so does that make the Koch the only Richter tuned "chromatic" harp left out there today?
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:39 AM
> Subject: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
>
> Hello all. I'm working on a Koch 10 hole chromatic. Any tips on reducing leakage? I did find that the slider is off to the right just a tad and needs to be tweaked in. I also hear a little "clicking" from what I presume are the windsavers on a couple of reeds. I'm not seeing any cracks in the comb, at least from the outside. Anything else I should be looking for? How about the slide itself? Are these generally lubricated with something? Thanks! -chuck
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:04:20 -0500
> From: michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] OT Check out google.com for a working moog synth
> To: harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Cool!
> Michael Rubin
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:12:31 +0000
> From: gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
> To: "Timothy Kane" <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>, "Harp-l"
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> There's the Hering Vintage 40--it's probably the best of the bunch.
> Sent on the Sprintï Now Network from my BlackBerryï
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sender: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:46:24
> To: Harp-L<harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
>
> Rockin Ron tells meïHohner discontinued the Slide Harp a year or so ago, so does that make the Koch the only Richter tuned "chromatic" harp left out there today?
>
> ï
> ïïïïïïïïï ïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïHawkeye Kaneïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïhawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxxïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïï Cell: (217)-741-7183ïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïïï www.hawkeyekane.com
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> ________________________________From: Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:39 AMSubject: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
> Hello all. I'm working on a Koch 10 hole chromatic. Any tips on reducing leakage? I did find that the slider is off to the right just a tad and needs to be tweaked in. I also hear a little "clicking" from what I presume are the windsavers on a couple of reeds. I'm not seeing any cracks in the comb, at least from the outside. Anything else I should be looking for? How about the slide itself? Are these generally lubricated with something? Thanks! -chuck
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:18:51 -0500
> From: Mick Zaklan <mzaklan@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] "Race, Gender & the Blues"
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
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> Great, insightful comments by everybody. This trend of Caucasians
> outnumbering African-American performers in the Blues genre probably
> started decades ago when AA bandleaders began having trouble finding young
> AA sidemen interested in playing the music. All of a sudden you had White
> back-up bands with an AA front man. There were advantages to having an
> integrated band. I'll give you an interesting example of what some might
> call "racism". In the early 70's, I drove my vision-impaired brother to an
> audition with Chicago harpist Little Mac Simmons. He (my brother) had
> recently switched over from drums to guitar and had acquired a lot of chops
> in a short amount of time. The directions were confusing but eventually we
> found ourselves in a basement with a 3-legged dog, a female "secretary"
> who was built like a Lil' Abner cartoon character, and suspiciously huge
> amount of musical and video equipment. A poster hung prominently on the
> wall proclaiming, "I AM THE WORLD'S GREATEST HARMONICA PLAYER" Little Mac
> Simmons. The poster was an advertisement for "Pimp Oil", a car deodorant
> that Mac endorsed for his humongous motor home. Clearly, this cat had a
> huge income from somewhere. We were in an impoverished neighborhood with
> tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff in this basement.
> Anyway, to cut to the chase, my brother played and I don't even think
> Mac was around yet. The band's other guitarist was Lonnie Brooks, who
> hadn't embarked on his solo career yet. I suspect that Lonnie probably did
> the auditioning. At some point a young AA kid with a guitar showed up
> named "Deadeye" and clearly outplayed my brother. He wanted the job, too.
> My brother got the gig, it was felt that a White kid in the band would help
> or allow Mac to get gigs in White clubs on Chicago's northside. That's how
> it was explained later.
>
> Mick Zaklan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: philharpn@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
> To: gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx, hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Again, it depends on what you want.
>
>
> If you simply want a Richter chromatic that doesn't leak, try the Hering.
> I have one in C somewhere. But as I recall, it is fully valved, meaning there is no A in the first octave. Not quite chromatic. Also, while having the note layout of the Richter, it has none of the draw bending access of the Richter layout because the valves/windsavers get in the way. But it will blow bend just like the standard solo tuned chromatic.
>
>
>
> Also, if anybody wants a new slideharp, order one from Seydel that they will build to order -- in any key, half-valved and you're good to go.
>
>
> And just to complicate matters, there is the issue of just tuning and equal temperament. Typically, Richter harps are just tuned with the exception of the Golden Melody and Lee Oskar and (?s) and the solo tuned chromatic is equal temperament.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnarlyheman <gnarlyheman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>; Harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 11:13 am
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
>
>
> There's the Hering Vintage 40--it's probably the best of the bunch.
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sender: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:46:24
> To: Harp-L<harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Timothy Kane <hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Koch Chromatic
>
> Rockin Ron tells me Hohner discontinued the Slide Harp a year or so ago, so does
> that make the Koch the only Richter tuned "chromatic" harp left out there today?
>
>
> Hawkeye Kane hawkeyekane@xxxxxxxxx
> Cell: (217)-741-7183
> www.hawkeyekane.com
>
> ________________________________From: Chuck Linville <linvillec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
> harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:39 AMSubject: [Harp-L] Koch
> Chromatic
> Hello all. I'm working on a Koch 10 hole chromatic. Any tips on reducing
> leakage? I did find that the slider is off to the right just a tad and needs to
> be tweaked in. I also hear a little "clicking" from what I presume are the
> windsavers on a couple of reeds. I'm not seeing any cracks in the comb, at least
> from the outside. Anything else I should be looking for? How about the slide
> itself? Are these generally lubricated with something? Thanks! -chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:19:12 -0500
> From: michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] My band's kickstarter campaign (Hopefully this is
> list appropriate)
> To: harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Dear Harp-l,
> My band, The Kalu James Band (who will be preforming at SPAH this
> year), has a kickstarter campaign to fund a double CD. If you do not
> know what kickstarter is, it is a way to raise money for art projects.
> As a supporter, you make a pledge to donate money to a project, as
> little or as much as you like. The artist sets a goal. If enough
> supporters' pledges combine to make the goal by a certain deadline,
> the supporters are required to pay their pledges. If the goal is not
> met, the supporters owe nothing.
>
> If my instruction, music or friendship has helped you, this is your
> chance to return the favor. Here is a link that will get you to the
> campaign:
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fundkalu/some-sort-of-fusion
> Thanks,
> Michael Rubin
> Michaelrubinharmonica.com
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:48:58 -0700
> From: David Fairweather <dmf273@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Re: XB-40
> To: "Harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Very sorry to hear that the XB-40 is discontinued. But I'm not surprised.
> The decision to make each note (except the 3 draw) bend one whole step,
> may have been logical and easy to understand, but musically was not
> optimal. Despite all those available enharmonics, it was still necessary
> to hit precisely controlled "in-between" bends if you wanted to play it
> with full chromaticity. Just before it was released by Hohner, Rick
> Epping allowed me an hour alone with a pre-release model and I immediately
> knew those in-between bends were its Achilles heel. Hence my decision to
> have Pat Missin retune my XB-40's to XB-Melody tuning which I designed to
> give every note in the chromatic scale its own stable home, either unbent
> or fully bent. In order to achieve that goal, the bending range of some
> reeds were reduced to 1/2 step, some were unchanged and some were
> increased to 1-1/2 steps.
>
> The end result can be viewed here:
>
> http://youtu.be/Hbvh8-coLqw ("Moody's Mood for Love")
>
> and here:
>
> http://youtu.be/H6ksUBFk9So (Medley "Grazin in the Grass, Do You Know the
> Way to San Jose, I Say a Little Prayer".)
>
> I regret that despite my best efforts, no one else seemed interested in
> exploring my concept. Perhaps it was the Melody Maker tuning which put
> people off, but the same concept of modifying the tuning on the responder
> reeds to reduce the "wobbliness" of all those in-between bends could have
> been applied to Richter tuning.
>
> There were other less bothersome problems with the XB-40 including its fat
> mouth profile, and its neither fish nor fowl valved diatonic sound. But
> those I could and did get used to.
>
> So goodbye XB-40. Although in recent years I have switched to Fourkey
> tuning, I still look back fondly on those heady days when the XB was new
> and I still keep in the back of my mind an intent to someday return to the
> XB-Melody for more exploration.
>
>
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