Re: [Harp-L] Key of ? Notes to play?

Yes. I did consider after reading you last, that 'have you' could be sung
as two consecutive sixths, but it's certainly not the way I know it.
Also, I'm aware that the major 7th is available as a 2draw bend, but if you
consider how you would play BBBS
in cross, you would either start at draw2/blow1, which would lead you
straight to the problem zone, or you would have to start at blow 6, which
would take you into the top octave where the major 7th is possible as a
bend on hole 9. I get the feeling that Tony is not at the blow-bending
stage yet, though I might be wrong.
Having (attempted) to teach in excess of 1000 people to play diatonic harp
over the last 15-20 years, I have a fair idea what most people do
naturally, and when it's appropriate to only give part of the story.
OK, so what's a less ambiguous example of the major 7th..."some- where O -
ver the rainbow" That's on the O....but I prefer nursery rhymes for ear
teaching. It's rare that you get a discrepancy about the melody note such
as we had here.

On 4 December 2012 13:00, Michael Rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Arthur Jennings pointed out 2 single bend is the 7th is cross.  True.  As
> is 9 bend.  I wasn't specific because the conversation seemed to be about
> the second octave.
>  Rick, I hear the melody now.  My two year old and all her favorite Baa
> Baa vdieos use the sixth.
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Rick Dempster <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> Michael;
>>              Hmm.....maybe there is some kind of cultural difference
>> lurking; here is a breakdown in the key of C as it is sung in my
>> neighbourhood:
>> Baa (C) Baa (C) Black (G) Sheep (G) Have (A) You (B) An-(C) -y-(A) Wool
>> (G)
>> On 4 December 2012 11:08, Michael Rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>> I would like to hear Rick sing baa baa.  You is the major sixth and is
>>> in all the octaves.  But he is correct, until you can overblow, there is no
>>> major seventh built into the harp.
>>> Michael Rubin
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Rick Dempster <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Tony; the answers to your specific questions are 'yes' in both cases.
>>>> However I would qualify that by saying that all the notes on the
>>>> instrument
>>>> are 'OK' in either first or second position. The best way to understand
>>>> this is to try playing simple tunes in both positions. For example, 'Baa
>>>> Baa Black sheep' will work in first position without any difficulties.
>>>> In
>>>> second position, you will most likely find that the note that falls on
>>>> the
>>>> word 'You' as in 'Have YOU any wool'; will not be readily available to
>>>> you
>>>> in the middle octave. This wouldn't matter if you were playing a blues,
>>>> as
>>>> that note (the major 7th, or F# on a C harp in second position) is not a
>>>> fundamental part of the blues scale. The nearest you will get is an 'F'
>>>> ,
>>>> or the flat 7th, which is perfect for a blues.
>>>> The best way of understanding is by doing. Just try every tune you can
>>>> think of in both positions. Use your ear, and forget tabs. It seems like
>>>> hard work, but you will learn faster.
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> On 3 December 2012 08:47, Tony Stephens <tnysteph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > Ok question the song is in the key of C so 1st position the notes
>>>> CEG? So
>>>> > could you use these 3 notes for a song & be ok?
>>>> > If you play 2nd position G would the holes be GBD? Could you use
>>>> these 3
>>>> > notes and be ok?
>>>> > I hope to talk to Matthew Smart tomorrow by phone on this one.
>>>> > Trying to learn the flow of the notes to the key of the song. I hope
>>>> that
>>>> > is the right way to say it. Just trying to learn. Thanks Tony Stephens
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
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