[Harp-L] Re: Looping Version of U2, Live

[Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@xxxxxxxxx>]

This is nowhere as cool as Noah's clip, but here is an example of
having separate tracks while looping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spkepjKQ2jY

With one button, I can drop out an instrument(s) and change dynamics.
This is nowhere as sophisticated as what Noah is doing in every
regard, but there aren't many mentions of advanced loopers in the
harmonica world.  While it is amazing what someone like Son of Dave
and Brandon Bailey can do with two button loopers, the more advanced
gear lets you do a lot more in terms of sounding like a band.

I also think they allow you to start creating more complicated
compositions.

On Oct 27, 1:38 pm, Noah Hoehn <nho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yep... the LP-1 is pretty expensive! I went back and forth between the LP-1 or Ableton and decided on the LP-1 for a few reasons.
> 1. I didn't want to be dealing with a laptop on stage. 104 degrees and high humidity at a festival... etc. etc.
> 2. I wanted zero latency. I would be running Ableton with MIDI pedals and it's very very fast but the LP-1 is instant.
> 3. General laptop headaches regarding upgrading the software, upgrading the OS, upgrading memory, compatibility etc.
> 4. I am a "pure" live looper in that I use NO backing tracks/prerecorded loops or tracks for any songs.
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> That being said there are many many successful loop artists that use Ableton with a slew of MIDI controllers with fantastic results. I think that there are many advantages to Ableton including:
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> 1. As many tracks as your laptop can handle and almost as many parameters as the LP-1.
> 2. Updates create an ever-improving product. The LP-1 is pretty set in stone.
> 3. Ability to trigger backing tracks. If you want to do this, Ableton is king.
> 4. Ease of live recording your shows. This is a big big plus in my mind.
> 5. General show flexibility. You can run a light show with the laptop... or trigger video loops...
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> Either route requires a hefty price tag and a lot of set up time. These are not 'plug and play' options. If I switch to Ableton in the future I'll let you know :)
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> Noah
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> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:44:33 -0400
> From: turtleh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: nho...@xxxxxxxxxxx; har...@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Looping Version of U2, Live
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> I looked up the LP-1, about $1250 new, phew!   But you don't get 8 independent tracks for cheap...
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> I wonder if it would be less expensive and equally functional to run Ableton Live on a laptop from the stage?  
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> Whatever the price/performance ratio, it sure sounds good.
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> Regards, Richard Hunter
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Noah Hoehn
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> Sent: Oct 27, 2011 1:16 PM
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> To: turtleh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, harp-l harp-l
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> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Looping Version of U2, Live
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> Hey Richard,
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> I'm using an Eventide Eclipse for all of the looped harp work. I brought my Crystal Ball-->Victoria 45410 rig for solos because it was a large room and I thought it would be fun to cut loose on it... if you listen closely near the end (solo) you can hear it cutting in and out and I switch back to my Fireball V-->Eventide. I need to get it serviced apparently... I didn't use an octave doubler on harp but I did sing a vocal bass part through an octave doubler that is the same Bo Diddley beat part and that's probably what you're hearing on this fan-made cell phone recording. There is a lot of slap echo etc in the video too...
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> I loop with an LP-1 and it has 8 independent tracks. On Desire I use 7 tracks.
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> Thanks!
> Noah
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> > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:23:40 -0400
> > From: turtleh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: har...@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Looping Version of U2, Live
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> > Noah Hoehn wrote:
> > <I had a great time with my solo show this past weekend and someone recorded my version of U2's "Desire".  My amp <was crapping on and off and the solo is very meh... but the looping is quite intricate so I thought some would <be interested. I switch between the A and B sections of the song like the original, add harmony vocals to the A <section w/o them playing right away, isolate the drums, isolate the bass etc.
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> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-1lkQaBGHQ
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> > This is a cool performance.  The harp sounds very big and good.  What's the rig?  I saw a Tweed Bassman-type amp in the back line, couldn't read the name plate.  Thought I heard an octave doubler on one of the harp lines too.
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> > It sounded to me like the drum/percussion loop was running independently of the harp loop.  Are you using a looper with multiple independent loop lines?  Very cool to be able to start and stop individual instruments in the mix independently.
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> > I'm sure the audience heard the harmonica in a different way when that performance was over.
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> > Regards, Richard Hunter
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> > author, "Jazz Harp"
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> author, "Jazz Harp"
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