RE: [Harp-L] Re: pedal train

Richard Hunter <turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:37:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

Buck Worley wrote:
<Please keep me on the loop on this discussion. I am slowly coming over to the multi-FX console users' side of <things. I have always been a vintage purist type of player/user but I am doing some experimenting with my Zoom <G9.2 which has 2 programmable foot expression type pedals and patches that I think may be very similar to the <RP355 stuff.
< 
<I am currently trying to create a couple of pitch shifting patches myself and am very interested in this as <well as some other custom patch ideas that I have. If there is anyone out there that does/sells Zoom patches <like what Richard is doing for the RP, I would be VERY interested.

The Zoom 9.2 is the top-of-the-line Zoom with a 12AX7 tube in addition to various modeled amps--I have no doubt that it will make killer sounds.

As noted previously, I'm working on a set of patches for the Zoom G2NU, mainly because I think that plenty of players would like a simple multi-FX unit that sounds good and runs on batteries.  I don't think most harp players are likely to spend more than $200 for an amp modeling device, which is fine, because you can get a lot of great sounds out of the devices in that price range.  But if I'm correct in that assumption, then there's not much incentive for anyone to develop patch sets for the high-end devices like the Zoom 9.2 and the Line 6 HD, except for personal use.

Regards, Richard Hunter

Buck Worley 
Sent: Jun 24, 2011 1:14 PM 
To: jeffery.degregorio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Re: pedal train 

Please keep me on the loop on this discussion. I am slowly coming over to the multi-FX console users' side of things. I have always been a vintage purist type of player/user but I am doing some experimenting with my Zoom G9.2 which has 2 programmable foot expression type pedals and patches that I think may be very similar to the RP355 stuff.

I am currently trying to create a couple of pitch shifting patches myself and am very interested in this as well as some other custom patch ideas that I have. If there is anyone out there that does/sells Zoom patches like what Richard is doing for the RP, I would be VERY interested.

Thanks,
Buck

> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Re: pedal train
> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:18:19 -0500
> From: jeffery.degregorio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> CC: 
> 
> I recently bought the RP355 and the patch set by Richard. As Richard mentioned, these are "out-of-the-box" designed for guitar and Richard Hunter has built some patches to "change" this to a harmonica processor - sort of speak. I must say that I like the many sounds/settings his patches provide and it sure beats trying to get the many quality sounds myself - Thanks Richard - you saved me many hours getting great sounds! Digitech RP355s now sell around $175-200, which I think is great. Plus, I believe (hopefully not wrong here) you can get a $20 rebate before June 30. 
> 
> Richard, if you have a moment, can you tell me more about pitch shifting. Are you referring to modulation? Haven't been through the entire guide yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> JEFF
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Hunter
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:51 AM
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: pedal train
> 
> 
> "Splash!" wrote:
> <I'm thinking... get a powered speaker on a stand and a small powered 
> <monitor and plug in my electric guit, acoustic guit (XLR from a DI) and plug 
> <my bullet in the Aux 1/4" input. It's got all the greatest amp models, and 
> <speaker cabs, and a slew of effects. And I can record the session direct to 
> <the laptop via USB.
> <
> 
> This is basically what I (and a number of my customers) been doing for years with the Digitech RPs and my patch set. It's a very versatile setup, and it can get very loud, all with less than 25 pounds of gear.
> 
> The issue with the Line 6 HDs, as with ALL amp modelers currently available, is that out of the box they're set up for guitar, not harp. It takes a lot of work to find the right settings for harp. That's why my customers pay me to create the sounds for them.
> 
> I've been doing some work lately with the Zoom G2NU, whose main advantage over the Digitechs is that it runs for hours on AA batteries. I've thought about working up some patches for the Line 6 HD, but the fact is that the cheapest HD model sells for about $300, and that's half again as expensive as a Digitech RP355. I don't think most harp players are willing to throw down that much on a very new (for harp players) approach to amplification.
> 
> But I could be wrong. In any case, I have no doubt that someone who's willing to put in the time could come up with a great set of sounds on the Line 6 HDs. If you want something right now, my Digitech patch set and an RP355 will do a great job. Did I mention that the pitch shifter in the Digitechs works a LOT better than the Line 6 versions? If there's anything in my Digitech that I can't live without, it's the pitch shifter--once you've heard a low octave doubler, it's hard to give it up.
> 
> Regards, Richard Hunter
> 
> 
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