Re: Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Genius? LOL/Elizabeth said nothing of the kind...

["Bill" <bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Whoops simple mistake sorry, no offence meant, i think I've been confused with some other Bill's before now meself - anyway I'm off to the Beesmouth to do it rather than talk about it  

Bill
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  To: bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:23 PM
  Subject: Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Genius? LOL/Elizabeth said nothing of the kind...


  In re Bill Eborn's:

  "Message: 2
  Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:50:31 +0100
  From: Bill <bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Genius? LOL
  To: Ev630 <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx>
  Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx

  'Elizabeth' wrote
  "But who's done anything honestly new in the last 20 years?"

  I must also respectfully disagree - I think there's lots of exciting
  harmonica around at the moment. (snipped)

  ------------------------------



  WHOA!!!!  Now hold ON a minute, Bill!   Are you quoting THIS post?  How in all tarnation does 'Ev' - a/k/a EvilTweed suddenly become 'Elizabeth'?  

  Sheesh.  Did you somehow all this time think you were having a discussion with me or the other Elizabeth?

  EV630 is Not now and has never been 'Elizabeth' - for the record. HE's an Aussie who signs his posts 'Drew', and I for one have polar opposite positions with him on just about every issue discussed here.

  Folks, please get your quotes correct and know to whom you're writing. Now a whole lot of other people have jumped on the same 'Elizabeth said this' bandwagon. NO we didn't, so please correct your responses and direct them at Drew.

  Not trying to usurp the listowner's role here, but It would also be the easiest for everyone to decipher posts after several go-rounds/requoting if you put quote MARKS around someone else's comments when reposting them in your own responses.  I've seen far too many posts where one can't tell who said what because the writer simply put someone else's remarks down and just left a bit of a space, as if that's sufficient. It isn't. After several repetitions the posts are so muddled the originator of the comments is long forgotten. Quotes solve such problems and are the fairest and easiest way. If I'm able to do it, anyone should, since I'm far from being computer savvy.

  In re this issue (since my name has been dragged into it), I most certainly vehemently disagree with Ev630/EvilTweed/Drew in re HIS contention that no one's done 'anything honestly new in the last 20 years'.

   My short response would be: 'Jason Ricci'. Proof? Blues aficionados have dumped on him more than once and still can't seem to fully make up their minds whether or not to include him in their midst because his approach is SO mind-bendingly innovative, different and unique they can't quite get their brains around it as 
  Blues, so they make up silly categories to nominate him in. See Rob Paparozzi's recent post about JR&NB's nomination for best album for the BMA awards about this..'RockBlues' indeed!  

  A longer response would include LD Miller's harmonica beat-boxing together with Brendan Power at last year's SPAH. Extremely new and innovative and completely brilliant. Those'll do for starters.  I'll save Chris Michalek for another post ;)

  Elizabeth

  "Message: 6
  Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:00:22 +0300
  From: Ev630 <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Genius? LOL
  To: Bill <bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
  Howard Levy, yes. Agree he was groundbreaking.

  But who's done anything honestly new in the last 20 years?

  As for the rest how are they doing anything innovative that they didn't
  derive from other instruments or genres?

  I'm not questioning their virtuosity, I just doubt we are discussing genius
  in these instances.

  On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Bill <bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  > "nobody in the field of the harmonica currently whose breaking any new
  > ground"
  >
  > Howard Levy? Gregoire Maret? Brendan Power? Sebastien Charlier? Vincent
  > Bucher? Olivier ker Ourio?
  >
  > To name but a few - all breaking new ground I'd have thought, all really
  > distinctive....
  >
  > Bill