Re: [Harp-L] Jazz Jams at SPAH 2009 - and not just jazz

Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx> · Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:28:24 -0400

On Jun 3, 2009, at 4:46 PM, IcemanLE@xxxxxxx wrote:

oops, my mistake. I was referring to Golden Age, you were referring  
to Diamond Age. Sorry.

Good try Larry. In actuality, BOTH ages had their little sidetracks.  
Fortunately, the current state of affairs has been a correction of  
both eras in various ways. While it is impossible to make everything  
run smoothly, the current state of affairs is smoother that it had  
been heretofore. Naturally, just as you cannot please all of the  
people all of the time, the current state is better than pleasing  
SOME of the people all of the time OR most of the people SOME of the  
time.
I see the recent trend pleases MOST of the people MOST of the time.  
Now, it goes without saying that if something doesn't please ME, that  
is of no big consequence as I am not MOST of the people. At least  
most of the time I'm not. (giggle)

You may be talking about 99. Unfortunately I wasn't there. That's the
one that included Toots. I DO have an audio of the event.
I'm referring to 97, 98, and 99.

I was there in 97 & 98, and you're CORRECT. They were good jams. So,  
I hope you will understand that I am only referring to the ones that  
I didn't think were so great. Columbus 2002 (for example) was fine.  
As was Dallas 2003.

> The idea was that, between the two
> events.
> both beginner and more advanced players would find exactly what they
> needed.
What you're saying is elitist. It smacks of "Hey, if you're a
beginner, go to Buckeye, we're not interested, but if you're
advanced, come to spah".

(koff), uh, interpretation may be in the mind of the reader. We  
wanted SPAH to be a different experience than Buckeye. SPAH was  
headed into a more professional direction than Buckeye, which was  
more user friendly. Nothing wrong with that.

Ok, I like the 'user friendly' part. And yes, you're right. My first  
Buckeye (91) was WAY different from my first spah (91). Buckeye was  
'Country Club Casual' whereas my first spah was 'Full Blown  
Formal'..... by comparison.
To say ""Hey, if you're a beginner, go to Buckeye, we're not  
interested, but if you're advanced, come to spah" sounds to my ears  
like a bit of "spin doctoring" harkening back to the ol' Tate/ 
Iceman exchanges.

I remember the exchanges. You BOTH had your opinions. I respected  
both of them.
 In all fairness, I used to be a lot more of an a**hole back then.  
The problem with having an "a**holectamy" is that people tend to  
hold onto the old image longer than is necessary. (I dug my own  
pit. I accept the responsibility and am not angered by responses  
like this - more amused than anything else).

Larry, Larry, Larry, I ALWAYS respect what you have to say. We go all  
the way back to 1991. Well, actually, you wouldn't have noticed me. I  
was Mr. cellophane. I went unnoticed. You, on the other hand, were  
noticeable. As a matter of fact, It wasn't until 2002 that spah even  
knew I was alive. It took 11 years. No problem.
Ok, so the fact that I played Buckeye 03,
05, 07, (and other years) makes me a beginner.

See, another example of spin doctoring, throwing a negative curve  
on a posting that never stated that those that play at Buckeye are  
beginners.

I'm just tickling you......giggle

And I GAVE him the credit. Now I can't say anything about Bob as I
had no interaction with him, but on several occasions, I made
suggestions to the rest of the establishment (Mitchell, Dobson,
Harris, etc), and it fell on deaf ears. Ya know why? No respect.

Still harboring feelings of resentment, perhaps?

No, not as long as I have friends like Randy Singer, Michael Peloquin  
& Jason Ricci. These guys are the future, those others are the past.
Singer, Peloquin & Ricci are different. They're not so full of  
themselves that they can't give a person a break. It's people like  
these that keep me coming back.
Interesting? story. One year there was a matinee at a festival.  
Because there were so many diatonic acts, they put on a chromatic  
matinee for the conventioneers. The idea was to take the better  
players and have them do a tune. 'I' wasn't invited?. Neither was  
Will Galison. Apparently Galison is too good...and I am not good  
enough. No problem. So, go check my videos and tell me that I'm not  
good enough.

Once again, my mistake. Sorry. Thought you were talking pre Tate  
conventions.

Some of the conventions in ALL eras were so so. Others were  
FANTASTIC. No need to say sorry. ALL have been worth going to, BUT,  
realize that I (like you) have to travel well over 1200 miles to get  
to ANY convention, so if I go to one, I kinda like to make it worth  
my while.

OK, Fearless Joe. You're the Man! :>)

I'm just saying.                       It's all water over the dam. I  
just like to make sure that the little people are represented.

Jo-Jo regazzo al facia cane