Re: [Harp-L] Combs!




.----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Sleigh" <rharp@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Richard HarpL Sleigh" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: [Harp-L] Combs!



If you don't think comb material makes a difference in the sound of a harmonica, I have a couple of experiments for you to try out:

Take a 1/4" thick piece of foam core board and make a comb out of it. Add reed plates & covers and play. Can you hear a difference now? How about rubber?

That is exactly the experiment that was conducted at the SPAH 97 seminar. We had combs of two types of plastic foam, doussie wood, black and clear plastic, balsa wood, titanium, aluminum, concrete and lead. None of the listeners could tell whether the same or a different material was used for successive plays...much less identify the material. We did not have a rubber comb because it is kinda hard to fabricate.


Some materials reflect sound, some absorb it. An unsealed pearwood comb absorbs some frequencies that a sealed pearwood comb reflects and amplifies. That is my experience, what my ears tell me. I also hear differences between brass, aluminum, and other materials. Sure, you could mess me up if I had to listen to someone else play the harps while I was bilndfolded, but there is a difference between how I play and what I hear through bone conduction, etc.

It seems that you and many others are ready to concede that materials do not affect harp tone enough for a listener to perceive any differences. That seems to me to be granting about 99% of my argument that there is no perceptible effect.


If we really want to settle this once and for all, there are devices that can measure sound and quantify it much better than most humans. That would be much more scientific.

There may be differences that can be detected in spectrograms. However, this discussion is about whether or not they are perceptible to the human ear.


I was not at the comb trials that have been referenced, but at best they were empirical science. Not definitive proof. If someone recorded samples and produced voiceprints or some other spectrum anaylisis visuals; and they came up identical for different materials, I would be willing to believe that my ears are fooling me when I hear differences in comb material.

Very many people sincerely believe that they can hear differences and that "wood is warm". However, no one so far has been able to demonstrate this ability under controlled conditions. A lot of people went to a lot of trouble to set up conditions under which the "comb materials effect" could have appeared. Although I'm not going to list their names, there were some top-notch harmonica performers among the listeners. This was a group of harmonica experts at a harmonica convention, not just a crowd off the street.


Vern





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