Re: [Harp-L] Re: [HarpTalk] Playing at Jam Sessions
 
- To: Larry Marks <larry.marks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
- Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: [HarpTalk] Playing at Jam Sessions
 
- From: Gary Popenoe <gpopenoe@xxxxxxxxx>
 
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:29:30 -0700
 
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Definitely concur that knowing when to lay out is a key skill for any  
musician.
The interesting thing is the trio that I am in places me in a support  
roll that has lots of rhythm elements. Many times it is my only roll.  
It is mostly chromatic work, but when I want to really dig in  
rhythmically, I pull out the diatonics. Sometimes I must clip the  
notes extremely short to begin to resemble drum hits. The ukulele  
player does the same and it makes a fun break down section in the tune.
Our trio is an acoustic one. I think the same approach can be  
electrified. It would take a technique shift along with some different  
choices.
Maybe it is more about the music. The stuff I do with the trio is  
structured to support my rythmic roll. A ballad may require more  
sustains and selected fills.
Another take is that I find that good musicians listen and seek a  
balance with my contributions. In that context, I can contribute quite  
a bit without sounding invasive. However, since they are good, I don't  
mind pausing to enjoy their work.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Larry Marks <larry.marks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  
wrote:
I think of the harp as mostly a lead instrument. In an acoustic  
setting, the harmonica can play rhythm as well, but in electric  
bands, it is usually not very good for rhythm.
I do not feel compelled to play all the time. Some players feel like  
they are not full members of the band if they don't play all the  
time like the guitars, bass and drum; but our instrument is  
different - not less important, just different. I agree with those  
who say that most harmonica players play too much. Remember that  
horn players spend a lot of their time laying out. Matter of fact, I  
think of the harp as a horn.
But as to the question at hand:
1. I frequently play complementary melodies ("comps") between the  
singer's phrases, much as guitar players do. I almost never play  
while the singer is actually singing because that is usually  
disruptive. Playing chords quietly behind the singer is no less  
distracting. Exception is when there is some catch riff to the song.
2. I lay out when someone else is playing a solo. I am a solo  
instrument and not a very good rhythm instrument in an electric  
band. With a bass, drums and, probably, a rhythm guitar, what have I  
got to add? Exceptions:
- If I know the player, we may swap lines, or if I can help by  
accenting a line in the solo.
- If, like for a singer, there is a catch riff to play.
- If there is no rhythm ax besides the bass and drums, I may pull  
out a low pitched harp - c or below - and play chords. I listen to  
the bass and drums, and I take my cues from them.
Basically, other than solos, I play only when I have something to  
add to the sound of the group. So I guess "less is more" is usually  
a good motto.
-LM
BTW, before I get an avalanche of responses to the contrary, please  
notice my liberal use of the word "usually".
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