[Harp-L] Re: gary smith review



This was sent from Gary after doing some gigs. 
"  
I have been playing blues harp through tube amps for  40 years. Out of the 
literally hundreds of amps I have used, one occasionally  will have that special 
quality of tone and presence that inspires me to play my  best and most 
soulful. Everyone who has heard me play through the Sonny Jr.  Cruncher has been 
impressed and moved by its sound.
 
I recently debuted the Cruncher at JJ's  Blues Club here in town......got 
many curious and blown-away harp fans.  Dave, the sound guy of some years at the 
club, was floored. He said it was the  best tone he ever mixed and concluded, 
"this one's got the  magic!!"
 
I am pleased and enthusiastic to be endorsing this  great line of amps!
 
Gary Smith
July 2008
  . For me it is an honor to have Gary speak so highly of it. 

 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. Re:  country/western (Rick Dempster)
2. Country & Bluegrass  Seminars At SPAH Conventions (tul1rd@xxxxxxx)
3. Re:  country/western (Joe and Cass Leone)
4. BandMaster  (sgvg)
5. Re: Jayphat schematic (HTownFess)
6.  chromatic help (mike reid)
7. New Harping MIDI version 2.9  (Javier Argomedo)
8. Big Harp Amp Sale {Meteor & Fender  Bassman} (jandkday@xxxxxxxxxxx)
9. Re: BandMaster (David  Payne)
10. country/western (MANFRED WEWERS)
11. Re: Suzuki  Soprano Single, Alto Single  (MilwHarmonica@xxxxxxx)


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Message:  1
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:23:28 +1000
From: "Rick Dempster"  <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L]  country/western
To: "Joe and Cass Leone" <leone@xxxxxxxx>
Cc:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <487CC0EF.7C8A.0066.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Strange that Joe. To me, drenched in old local-style  vamping, Chicago blues, 
Louisiana Blues etc etc., plus  all the pre-war  style US greats. black & 
white, the old-style country guys like Wayne  Raney, Onie Wheeler, Lonnie Glosson 
etc., 'country harp' was blown wide open  by Charlie McCoy, who not only 
demonstrated the possibilities of harmonica in  country music, but also the 
broadly applied melodic possibilities of second  position. He really turned it into 
a 'voice', and really made me think very  differently about the instrument. 
McCoy's playing had a dramatic effect on me,  and I'm certain, amongst harp 
players generally. Obviously, because I'm not a  US resident, there may be a lot I 
have missed; maybe there were other unknown  players (yourself, perhaps?) 
influencing things at the grass roots level. But  for those of us members of the 
'cargo cult' (ie buyers of imported records)  McCoy's influence was huge. I 
see Jason Ricci cites Pat Ramsay (hope I'm right  here!) as his major influence, 
but listening to Ramsay, I'd say that without  McCoy, Ramsay wouldn't be 
playing like he did, and perhaps likewise,  therefore, Jason. I'm sure I could 
extend this parallel. Thus the dearth of  'country' players amazes me, and the 
rareness of references to McCoy on the  list likewise. No country harp at SPAH? 
Incredible! (hey...it's none of my  business anyway; no offence intended)
Cheers,
RD

>>> Joe  and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx> 15/07/2008 14:23 >>>

On  Jul 14, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Rick Dempster wrote:

> Amongst the 392  faithfuls

I should add that the roughly 400 change from year to year.  There is  
a turnover.

> , can you not find a quorum of  scratchers, scrapers, sliders &  
> pickers to assemble a  country lineup?

Here's the problem oh Rick of Dempsters. The by-laws  say that other  
instruments can be used, but music MUST include a  harmonica and it  
must be prominently featured. This has given people  the mistaken idea  
that other instruments are sort of frowned upon.  Therefore the usual  
combination you will get is a guitar/harp  player. Once we even had  
Larry Adler on piano with left hand and  chromo with right hand.

And let's face it, it's hard to play a horn and  harp at the same  
time. Then getting other musicians together brings  into play shipping  
the instruments IN. The way the airlines have  been lately, I don't  
think 'I' would want to ship an instrument  case. On a recent trip to  
Columbus, I had to make room to bring a  trumpet home that I hadn't  
brought with me on the trip up there. I  flew. I don't carry much when  
I fly.

> Dunno why there's  not more input from country players on harp-l  
> anyhow (yep, it's  all been said before, I know)

Well, for one thing, there aren't many  country players ON harp-l, and  
I don't think anyone knows who even  PLAYS country, except, of course,  
the usual suspects.  I would  bet my next retirement check that the  
diatonic players that were  mentioned yesterday had NO idea that I  
(for example) played country.  That's because they don't know who I  
am. Not really.

In the  17 years (this year), that I have been going to conventions,  
no one  has ever asked me to be on any country/western panel or forum.  
In  fact, no one has ever asked me to be on any jass panel or forum.   
Most players who are not in the top echelon slip under the  radar.

smo-j

> Cheers,
> RD
>
>>>>  Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx> 15/07/2008 11:58  >>>
> No Rick, it isn't that. What I meant was that without a  country
> western band, there's a problem. See, what happens is that  the
> harmonica player is forced to do the entire tune if he/she has  no
> back-up. It's a lot 'fuller' if another instrument can take a  part,
> so that they can then segue into a key change.
>
>  One guy juggling harps while trying to 'carry' the entire tune, is
> not  good. When you listen to a country/western tune, you usually hear
>  another lead instrument, a rhythm instrument, and possibly a harmony
>  instrument in addition TO the harp. Stuff like: pedal steel, dobro,
>  fiddle, banjo, guitar, mandolin, piano, or any combo thereof.
>
>  Unfortunately spah can never get more than 392 of its 886 members in
>  any one place at any one time and the festival fee (multiplied) STILL
>  doesn't leave a lot of spare change, and they flat out can't afford
> to  bring in paid musicians. It's not like the Suncoast trad jass
> fest,  where there are 4484 attendees over their 3 days. Where (at
> $90.oo a  ticket), the gate is over 400 grand. Spah can't break 7
> grand. That's  a BIG difference.
>
> smo-joe
>
> On Jul 14, 2008, at  8:11 PM, Rick Dempster wrote:
>
>> You guys mean to say the  backing musos at Spah can't play  country?!!
>>
>>>>> michael hines  <otisharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 15/07/2008 10:00 >>>
>>  Surely they'll be a couple a geetars around. Might be able to fake
>>  a little bit of country.
>>
>>          Mike
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>



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Message:  2
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:36:26 -0400
From: tul1rd@xxxxxxx
Subject:  [Harp-L] Country & Bluegrass Seminars At SPAH Conventions
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CAB453DC37F860-6A8-26D7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hey guys, let me fully explain how these  seminars are constructed for the 
SPAH conventions over the years. I have been  with SPAH since 1977, and I am 
usually the person that hosts or conducts the  Country & Bluegrass seminars at 
SPAH. I start working on my seminar six  months before the convention. First I 
call the names of the harmonica players  on my list to invite as my guests, to 
conduct their portion of the seminar.  They usually say, sure? I would love to 
be a part of it, as long as I am not  booked a paying gig on that date?of the 
convention. Myself and all of my  seminar presenters do not get paid to 
conduct seminars at the convention. We  donate our services. I have around six 
instructors as my guests, (famous and  not so famous) and I tell them way in 
advance to pick an important subject  that relates to either Bluegrass or Country 
style harmonica playing that they  can instruct. I have to check in with each 
of my guests over the period of six  months to?make sure they do not?cover the 
same topic by another presenter. It  has to be mainly educational. My seminars 
are more like a classroom, than a  concert. We have to make the most out of 
it since we do not have a Bluegrass  or Country band with us. We have been 
lucky to have Joe with his guitar to  help us out during our seminars. SPAH will 
not pay for a band for us, and not  just for their performance, but their hotel 
rooms, gas?and meals. I have  discuss this matter in the past with Paul 
Davies, and suggested having the  SPAH convention in Nashville, Tenn., so that way 
we could get a Bluegrass and  a Country band to be part of my seminar. He 
loved the idea. ?We could have the  bands stick around after the seminar, so some 
of the harmonica players can jam  with them. That would be so cool to have one 
big Country & Bluegrass jam  session at SPAH someday. The only and big 
problem is, there has to be a  harmonica club in Nashville, and that they are 
willing to host the SPAH  convention there. Well, so far there is not a harmonica 
club in Nashville. If  any of you folks have any 

suggestions for my future Country &  Bluegrass seminars at the SPAH 
conventions, please direct you comments to my  Email address at tul1rd@xxxxxxxx Thank 
you.?????????? Tulsa Read  www.harmonicaonline.com  


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15  Jul 2008 02:18:45 -0400
From: Joe and Cass Leone  <leone@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] country/western
To: "Rick  Dempster" <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <B718EDEF-6307-4213-B14A-10CE6ADC1555@xxxxxxxx>
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On Jul 15,  2008, at 1:23 AM, Rick Dempster wrote:

> Strange that Joe. To me,  drenched in old local-style vamping,  
> Chicago blues, Louisiana  Blues etc etc., plus  all the pre-war  
> style US greats.  black & white, the old-style country guys like  
> Wayne Raney,  Onie Wheeler, Lonnie Glosson etc., 'country harp' was  
> blown  wide open by Charlie McCoy, who not only demonstrated the  
>  possibilities of harmonica in country music, but also the broadly   
> applied melodic possibilities of second position.

When I  started playing harmonica, I started on chromo first, so I had  
no  idea about diatonic. Then when I eventually started playing it, I   
did the same thing I had done with chromo. I sucked instead of   
blowing. So, in retrospect, I started playing chromo in 3rd  position.  
The I started diatonic in 2nd.

Somewhere along the  way, I decided there were too many missing notes,  
and so I retuned a  reed on my diatonic. Then I retuned another.  
Imagine my shock when,  in 1970 a program came on TV and there was a  
fellow who was playing  diatonic that sounded similar to me. It was  
Charlie  McCoy.

Ironically, it was in 1962?  when I was in the navy and was  spending  
a weekend at a place called Virginia Beach Va. and Roy  Orbison was  
appearing at the Peppermint Top Hat lounge. I told  Orbison that I  
could do the harp part on Candy Man if he wanted to  do it. Roy  
brushed me off. I didn't know it was McCoy on that record  at that time.

I don't do the fast stuff he does. P.T. Gazell is so much  better at  
it. Listen to Phil do the Flintstones if you think I'm  kidding. Rocky  
Top & Bobby McGhee is as fast as I go. So, if you  don't do those  
crowd pleasers (like OBS & John Henry), you won't  get the big bucks.

> He really turned it into a 'voice', and really  made me think very  
> differently about the instrument.

I  ALWAYS thought about it that way. I suppose listening to Neopolitan   
love songs, gave me an idea of where I wanted to go.

> McCoy's  playing had a dramatic effect on me,

It gave ME  encouragement.

> and I'm certain, amongst harp players generally.  Obviously, because  
> I'm not a US resident, there may be a lot I  have missed; maybe  
> there were other unknown players (yourself,  perhaps?)

No, don't start. Forget the 'yourself' thing. I am just  average. I  
don't want to impose upon your life but check out my  video 'After The  
Lovin' at    http://youtube.com/user/snarkus  before you let THAT pop  
into  your head again. Then tell me if you think I can handle country.

>  influencing things at the grass roots level.

Grass is about the level  that I'm at. Very good  lol

> But for those of us members of  the 'cargo cult' (ie buyers of  
> imported records) McCoy's  influence was huge. I see Jason Ricci  
> cites Pat Ramsay (hope  I'm right here!) as his major
>  influence, but listening to  Ramsay, I'd say that without McCoy,  
> Ramsay wouldn't be playing  like he did, and perhaps likewise,  
> therefore, Jason.

I  have heard Ramsey at the Buckingham Blues Bar in Ft. Myers Florida   
and I don't see the connection to Jason. Jason's style is  different.

> I'm sure I could extend this parallel. Thus the dearth  of 'country'  
> players amazes me, and the rareness of references  to McCoy on the  
> list likewise.

I would mention him but I  don't want to tick anyone off. Spent his  
67th  birthday with  him, (he's a year older than I) had a wonderful  
day, and I wouldn't  do anything to cause him any loss of esteem by  
constantly bringing  up his name till someone got annoyed and wound up  
taking it out on  HIM. I profoundly admire him.

> No country harp at SPAH? Incredible!  (hey...it's none of my  
> business anyway; no offence  intended)

Well, I didn't mean to give the impression that there's NO  country  
harp at spah. There is, but it is naturally limited by the  resources  
available. There are players but they practically have to  play  
Acapulco. Mainly because they can't bring their bands. The  usual  
routine is for a country harper to lay down the head and  bridge. This  
may take 45 seconds. Then another instrument (like a  guitar) comes in  
for a phrase (30 seconds) and maybe a THIRD  instrument (dobro/fiddle)  
comes in for the bridge (15 seconds). Then  the harp finishes with  
another 45 seconds. Total time= 2 min 15 sec.  So if you want to pull  
the tune out longer, you can stretch the  guitar & dobro or fiddle  
parts to 45 seconds. Total = 3 minutes.  A tune almost HAS to be 3  
minutes.

Otherwise the poor harp  player has to blow his brains out for 3 solid  
minutes all by  himself. That gets old real quick. For the player AND  
the audience.  The key is to keep it diversified. Too much of the same  
timbre isn't  good.
Jo-Jo


> Cheers,
>  RD



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Message: 4
Date:  Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:04:08 -0500
From: "sgvg"  <sgvg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] BandMaster
To:  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:  <004401c8e659$be406c30$4001a8c0@engraver>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"

Nope mine is NOT an 1898  model. Thanks to Dave's posting of the original 
sure clears the air for me. It  does say registered Made In Germany trade mark. 
Don't know, new at this stuff  may be a way they made it in India, and looked 
like made in  Germany?
Stan

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Message:  5
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:06:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: HTownFess  <Spschndr@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Jayphat schematic
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<913681f6-74cb-4bf3-a78c-c927b4552c90@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

At  http://groups.google.com/group/harp-l/files/ look for the
JAYPHAT2.jpg file  for the schematic.  Can't do a direct link because
that seems to break  down as soon as anybody uploads another file to
that page.   JAYPHATDelayDemo is a sound file with an MC-151, DD-3 and
Danecho; there is  also a bit of CM + Danecho near the end of the
JAYPHATEV127CM file.   Don't know of anyone building this commercially;
the Kinder Maximizer box  does the same kind of mic buffering though I
don't know what its circuit is  like or how long you'd have to wait to
get one.  I can only guess, but  I think an amp tech who's equipped to
build pedals could knock their first  JAYPHAT out in an hour or two,
it's just a dirt-simple circuit; parts are  in the neighborhood of
$30.  It would be a good idea to ask for  parallel output jacks if
anyone is having a JAYPHAT built--simple way to  split the mic signal
well.

On Jul 14, 11:31 am, Richard Hunter  <turtleh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Stephen Schneider  wrote:
>
> <Yes, the JAYPHAT will prevent tone loss if you put  it between the mic
> <and delay, and it's really convenient to have a  stand-alone box that
> <will do that.  I have only tried it with  delay pedals, but it'd be
> <worth a try in front of any pedal or  string of pedals because if your
> <mic's been losing anything with  them, it's unlikely to sound worse
> <when you restore that  content--it'll come out as clearer resolution of
> <what the pedal  does.
>
> And we get this thing (or the schematic) where?  I  know you posted a URL 
previosuly--can you re-post, please?
>
>  Thanks, Richard Hunter
> latest mp3s and harmonica blog  athttp://myspace.com/richardhunterharp
>
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Message:  6
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: mike reid  <shrimpdaddymike@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] chromatic help
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <329444.3521.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I have an old chromonica 3 with an  intact wooden comb,  unfortunatly the 
reeds are not in that great a shape  a couple missing etc.  my question is can i 
use this comb with a old  super 64 that has a crack in the comb?  will it  
fit? 




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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Jul  2008 08:27:08 -0400
From: Javier Argomedo  <jargomed@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] New Harping MIDI version  2.9
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <487C979C.707@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;  format=flowed

Dear all,
I just wanted to let you know that I have  uploaded the latest version of 
Harping MIDI, the harmonica tab software  for windows, to my recently 
refurbished site, it has several changes,  please feel free to try it out.
The link is the  usual:
http://www.harpingmidi.com/
cheers,
Javier.
http://www.myspace.com/diabluz

ps.  see you at SPAH (by the way, anybody willing to share the  room?)


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Message: 8
Date:  Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:04:28 +0000
From: jandkday@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:  [Harp-L] Big Harp Amp Sale {Meteor & Fender Bassman}
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<071520081304.29763.487CA05C0002C3C6000074432205886442970E0B050B020E06@comcast
.net>

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Hello all,

Before I go the  ebay & craig list route I thought I would offer
my brothers &  sisters of the iron 2 great gigging amps.
I have played both of them at  several outdoor & club gigs
and they are both outstanding for  increasing your sonic palette
& both are fully functional with no  issues.
I will "super pack" them to avoid any shipping damage.
I am  standing in need of some cash, so I am willing to price them to  move.

1) Brand new Meteor Amp
2) Rebuilt Fenderbassman  4X10

Please call me at 610.461.7391 or email me via  james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thank you so much!
--
James Day & the  Fish Fry 
"Jump Blues & Greasy Grooves" 
www.jameswday.com  

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Jul  2008 06:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Payne  <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] BandMaster
To:  Harp L Harp L <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:  <166350.82428.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


Yours is made in Germany. That  Koh-i-noor from India had nothing to do with 
Seydel, it was an example of what  happens when you either don't register a 
trademark, fail to renew it, or if  you have it, how some folks just use it 
anyway. All Seydel's stuff is  made at the Klingenthal, Germany, factory. The only 
outsourcing I'm aware  of  is when they used to have work done in people's 
homes around  Klingenthal.
Dave 
_______________________
Dave Payne Sr. 
Elk  River Harmonicas
www.elkriverharmonicas.com  

----- Original  Message ----
From: sgvg <sgvg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:04:08 AM
Subject:  [Harp-L] BandMaster

Nope mine is NOT an 1898 model. Thanks to Dave's  posting of the original 
sure clears the air for me. It does say registered  Made In Germany trade mark. 
Don't know, new at this stuff may be a way they  made it in India, and looked 
like made in  Germany?
Stan
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Message:  10
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: MANFRED WEWERS  <mwewers@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] country/western
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <781937.9611.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

And I thought every harmonica player was  into C&W.  At the last St. Louis 
convention, we even had Douglas Tate  join in on a bunch of C&W tunes in one of 
our "duelling Vineta" sessions  in the halls in the wee hours of the morning.

I am  certainly not in the top echelon of harmonica players (I'm working on  
scratching the bottom), but over the last few years, have participated in a  
number of forums and seminars.  I thought and still do that you need just  step 
forward and offer your services.

Manfred  Wewers




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15  Jul 2008 09:38:15 EDT
From: MilwHarmonica@xxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] Re:  Suzuki Soprano Single, Alto Single
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <c7e.17226df1.35ae0247@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Hello, William Galley.

The Suzuki Soprano  Single is a 3-octave slideless chromatic, C-C,  with the 
range of a  traditional solo system slide chromatic in C
(with no high C# or D). It's a  blow-only instrument.

The Suzuki Alto Single is a 3-octave slideless  chromatic, C-C,  with  the 
range of a solo system tenor slide  chromatic in C
(with no high C# or D). It's a blow-only  instrument.

I own the Alto Single, but don't use it very often. I don't  own the  
Soprano. 
But I prefer the range of the Alto,  anyway.

Both harmonicas listed here are beautiful, high quality musical  instruments  
with perfect tone, from the lowest to the highest  note.

Playing the Alto is a pleasure. Each note is pure and   clean. There are only 
a few problems for me. They may be no problem  for  other players:

The covers are a soft brass on my Alto, and  bend out of shape if using a  
firm grip. Hold the harmonica lightly,  and there will be no problem.

The instrument is large, at approximately  12.5" wide (left to right) X  
almost 2" high (at the audience side),  X  almost 2.25" deep
(mouthpiece side to audience side). It weighs  over a pound.

The notes are farther apart than on a slide chromatic,  and that takes a  
period of adjustment. The instrument is easier to  learn than a bass harp, a  
2-deck insgtrument that has a similar note  placement system.

If my mustache is just long enough, the covers catch  a hair or two, and  
that's painful (that's not the manufacturer's  problem, it's my problem).

It has a high quality wood case with strong  hinges and clasps, with a  
strong 
handle.  If you have the  money, try one. They are expensive. The  last time 
I 
checked, they  were around $300 each. 

John  Broecker




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