Re: [Harp-L] How ta lern to Play proply

["Arnold Wiliem" <arnoldw.id@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,

Would you mind sharing your practical tips and tricks with regard to throat
vibrato. I'm still learning how to do it. My biggest issues are mainly on
the draw vibrato and slowing down my blow vibrato.
I think the tips and tricks I came across till now told me to start from at
slow pace, and then increase the pace. In my case, however, I only can do in
a very very fast pace, and I'm having trouble to make my vibrato in a slow
pace and is able to in touch with the music mood I play. Well, my trick to
do blow vibrato is to simulate laughing to trigger my diaphragm vibrating...
I just can't slow down the vibration on my diaphragm ...

While I'm pretty good in sounding blow vibrato, I can't do it rightly in
draw vibrato... it's just soo bad.. that I can't put it when I'm playing..
My trick to do draw vibrato is just try to do backward laughing which
triggers my diaphragm vibrating.

I was just wondering whether I am in the right direction or not. Is there
any tips and tricks, or recording in mp3 enlightening to learn this great
vibrato (e.g. giving examples of both draw and blow vibrato from a very slow
pace to a "musical" pace)

Any comments, tips & tricks is much appreciated..!!

PS: Regards to the mic question, I just bough SM57 last week.. probably will
arrive this afternoon..and it'd take me another two weeks before I put it on
PA becoz I'm going to WorldYouthDay in Sydney.

Best Regards,
Arnold


On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Christelle Berthon <christellester@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi guys
>
> If I can help one this one:
>
> My view of playing is more a matter of emotions and feelings and the way to
> transmit it to the listener.
>
> I'm not extremely clean while I play, and if you look at it many harp
> players are not that sharp. Having said that, there's a minimum for
> presenting a piece of music. It means that you've to master the basics of
> your instrument alone (tongue blocking, blow/draw in one hole, bends notes
> properly, and using OB/OD). It gives you the tools you need to tell the
> story you want to tell, which mean that you've to have the deep will to
> transmit something. Jean Jacques Milteau said to me a decade ago, during my
> first an only lesson of my life: " if you've the impression that what you're
> doing is complicated, then that's not the blues, or music" he's so right
> saying this. Miles Davis at the end was playing single notes, but what
> notes!!!!!
>
> After that, you've to have TASTE (good or bad it doesn't matter) while you
> play to be an elegant player (like Steve Baker, SBW II, Jean-Jacques
> Milteau, Charlie Mc Coy) chosing your phrases on purpose, or to be a wild
> story teller.
>
> If it can help, my goals when I play any kind of piece of music is to reach
> the shivers goose bumps, to reach the right note. This is one aspect who
> gives to the listener (and of course yourself) the impression that you can
> play....
>
> BUT that's not enough there's a special aspect of the play that is in my
> opinion a crucial point : VIBRATO
>
> Our instrument is too close to our vocal strings, this is the signature of
> every harp players (well yes some doesn't vibrate like Charlie Mc Coy). This
> is as well the way you'll be able to convey music and emotions. Just think
> it as an accent: when you talk your accent says who you're where you're
> coming from it's the part of the story you're telling when you speak to
> someone, and for the ones who are foreign language speaker, you know that
> even if you have small amount of words in your brain, BUT a very very good
> accent, people think that you're  speaking very well this language. So for
> the VIBRATO and to give the impression that you can play, this is a very
> important point.
>
> Hope it'll help and sorry for my english mistakes
>
> Christelle
>
>
> Le 7 juil. 08 à 07:06, Philharpn@xxxxxxx a écrit :
>
>
>  I think you really covered the bases for the whole nine yards for a hat
>> trick.
>> Keep up the good work.
>> And support your favorite harp player by buying CDs/downloading legally
>> and
>> attending performances.
>>
>> Phil Lloyd
>> Back to the woodshed
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/5/08 10:00:06 PM, drfertig@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>>
>>
>>  Really, to play blues harp properly, it is absolutely necessary  to learn
>>> to read music, understand music theory, and  -
>>>
>>> OOPS!  I mean, one should just get a harp and suck and blow it a million
>>> times, til you get it right, then -
>>>
>>> NO! NO! You gotta get lessons, do your homework, play on tape and listen
>>> back, make corrections -
>>>
>>> OH WAIT, NO!!  What I mean to say is blow it
>>> along with recordings whenever you get the chance, and learn each lick of
>>> your harp heroes, only then -
>>>
>>> UH OH, I misspoke! One should avoid the limits of Western musical
>>> conventions, else one betrays one's soul and the origins of blues music,
>>> and that's -
>>>
>>> OH SH!T! What I really mean to say is - ONLY FOLLOW THE ADVICE that makes
>>> sense to you, your style of learning, the sort of playing you wish to
>>> emulate,and allow yourself to change as you proceed.  It's only important
>>> that you
>>> feel good about whatever approach you take, and it works for you.  And
>>> keep an
>>> open mind.
>>> Many fine players don't read music, don't overblow, don't wear cool hats,
>>> etc. and some do, the results are what count, and that includes you being
>>> happy
>>> with what you're doing.
>>>
>>> "Take what you need and leave the rest."
>>>
>>> -Dave Fertig
>>>
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