Re: [Harp-L] what is ODBG ? (was creativity)

[Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>]

On May 13, 2007, at 11:57 AM, BRATGIRLBABY63@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Personally, I think we've become a more easily offended society,  
> because we
> have become such an "insensitive" society.

Therefore, if we have become an insensitive society, we should NOT be  
easily offended. It's a matter of 'If the shoe fits, wear it'. I have  
been insulted countless times. Take WOP for example: People use this  
phrase and don't even know what it means. It means immigrants who  
came to this country WITH OUT PAPERS. The stupid jerks who came up  
with it didn't even realize that without is ONE word, so that shows  
THEIR ignorance.

Being from a heritage that was (because of the over bearing Catholic  
Church) MANIACAL about keeping records, MY people actually DID have  
birth certificates whereas a lot of the people using this phrase were  
born in the U.S. and DIDN't.

Let's take DAGO. This was a term hung on immigrant Italians, Greeks &  
other 'Medeteranean' type by the black peoples of the New Orleans  
area. The phrase goes like this: "Dago heah, dago dere, dago and take  
yo job, maybe dey need go away". Fact: At one time Italians were  
murdered in great numbers in New Orleans.

People should get a grip and simply consider the source. I happen to  
be Sicilian (decent). I once interviewed for a job with a security  
clearance, and the panel asked me how many friends and relatives I  
had in the mafia? They didn't ask 'if', they asked 'how many'. My  
family landed here (the first time) 5/26/1601 at St. Augustine Fla.  
That beats Jamestown, that beats Plymouth. I don't listen to bigotry.  
Bigots get written off.

But, I don't see any disrespect in shortening a phrase to an  
anachronym (or whatever it's called). It all depends on how the  
person intends it to come across. If their posts or writings have  
never come across as malicious, I see no problem.

> Go out in public, spend some time
> at  the mall or grocery store, or watch some TV. Take a look at how  
> kids/people
> talk  and act these days. Blatant disrespect is every and is  
> becoming the
> norm,  so it seems.

Yes, and TV and the movies are the cause. Writers will prostitute  
themselves and write ANYTHING for a buck. Remember a couple years  
back when EVERYTHING on TV dealt with gay people. Before that  
EVERYONE had aids. Before that it was black, hispanic, oriental  
gangs. Now it's Russian mafia. Now EVERYTHING is terrorists. What's  
next? Eskimos whose bodies have been taken over by space aliens?

Writers need to carry hod or crack coal for a while and learn what it  
means to work for a living. Instead of making everyone's misfortunes  
their fortunes. It seems as if everyone is writing a book.

> Everything is so "in your face" now a days that people become
>  desensitized to much of it and soon it becomes socially acceptable.

Because no one will take a stand. Controversial issues go to court  
and judges toss them out. Hard working tax payers are getting sick of  
carrying all the leeches, so everyone is looking out for themselves.  
You try to correct someone, and you wind up getting stabbed. Self  
preservation.

> Free
> speech  is good. Declining respect in society is not. Harps are  
> good. Harps are
> great.  Harp players are the greatest. Maybe you have a point,  
> Dave. We should
> all talk less and everyone take up the harp!

People should worry more about important things.
smokey-joe
> Chicago Brat
> Knowledge is Power