RE: Re: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg



If I was going to Germany, 
I would definitely be checking out all the harmonica
factories and airgun factories (love airguns made by
Weihrauch and Feinwerkbau!).

I always have my iPod for music...

Ken H in OH

--- Tom Klingl <tom.klingl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, being from Bavaria, I also want to contribute
> to this discussion: Ralf
> is right - it is difficult to find real good
> Bavarian folk music in public
> these days and Nurnberg is not an appropriate place
> for this at all. I am
> saying this because I have played Bavarian folk
> music myself (the good stuff
> ;-)) in younger years. Smo-joe you have to
> understand: Despite your great
> statement it is not easy from the viewpoint of
> somebody who grew up in
> Germany: Some of the stuff called 'Volksmusik' also
> represented a very
> conservative attitude to us when we were younger.
> And it is no better than
> your so-called 'Hollywood America'. Thus we hated
> it. And turned to Blues,
> Rock, Jazz etc.. But this is a longer thing to
> explain and would lead into
> deeper sociological analysis of Germany's recent
> history. Now, if you want
> to hear some really progressive Bavarian music with
> a humorous and political
> background I'd recommend these URLs
> 
> http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/muhlandler.mp3
> http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/bistaado.mp3
> http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/baywa.mp3
> 
> Back to  Nurnberg: There's an interesting thing to
> know about this region
> (for who ever from this list will travel there):
> Middle-Frankonia is THE
> region in Germany concerning instrument
> manufacturing. Names such as Hoefner
> (http://www.hofner.com/ guitars, violins, celli...),
> Hanika (classical
> guitars), Kühnl & Hoyer (brass instruments), Framus
> (http://www.framus.de/guitars), Warwick (basses),
> K+M
> (http://www.k-m.de/index.php?id=1&L=1&no_cache=1
> music and mic stands and
> hardware)... they are all in this wider area. The
> explanation for this high
> concentration of mid-sized, family tradition
> instrument makers, plus their
> suppliers is, that after WW II most of thes
> companies came over from Czechia
> (Egerland - Eghaland, czech: Chebsko and Vogtland,
> which Ben already
> mentioned) and settled there.
> 
> As far as I know Hoefner has guided tours but you
> should call and find out
> when they are. Unfortunately I do not know of any
> harmonica factory (to add
> some harp content to this contribution). Otherwise
> travelling to Klingenthal
> as Ben advised, takes about 2.5 hours by car from
> Nurnberg, depending on
> road conditions (winter). 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Tom (Berne, Switzerland)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On 
> > Behalf Of r_buschner@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:23 PM
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: FW: Re: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > > How about actually checking out the culture
> you'll be visiting.  How
> > about
> > > looking for German music, rather than some
> rehashed version of an
> > > American form.  See what German folk or other
> music is there.
> > 
> > i take the opportunity to answer, since i'm german
> (live in Munich, 
> > 100 miles south of Nuremberg).
> > 
> > Classical Music in Nuremberg in Feb 07:
> > 
> > 5. Philharmonic Concert
> > Joseph Haydn - Symphony B-maj Nr. 102 Hob I:102
> > Haydn was Austrian, not German.
> > 
> > Frédéric Chopin -Concert for Piano and Orchestra
> Nr. 2 f-min op. 21 
> > Chopin came from Poland
> > 
> > Franz Liszt - Les Préludes
> > well, a Hungarian...
> > 
> > Not a single one of them is german...and Bach is
> not found on the 
> > schedules in Nuremberg.
> > 
> > Concerning german folk music: What you get here,
> is commercial 
> > bullsh**. Sorry for the hard word, but that's it.
> It's pop-music 
> > played by people in fantasy costumes pretended to
> be traditional 
> > costumes, and the music has a kind of folkish
> touch, but that's all. 
> > When someone is looking for real folk music, he
> has to know some 
> > people in a village in the mountains, playing
> together at home, or 
> > something like that. It's a much better idea to
> look for blues people 
> > and beeing amongst friends then, liking the same
> stuff than they do,
> > taking the blues as a "common language". 
> > 
> > That's the reality...not a romantic vision...
> > 
> > see ya,
> > Ralf
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:47:13 +0100
> > Subject: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg
> > From: jross38@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > Greg asks about blues clubs in Germany (the town
> is unimportant for 
> > this
> > post) becausehe'll be visiting.  At the risk of
> being called
> > a snob or snot, I'll  take this opportunity to do
> something 
> > I've always wanted when I see these posts.
> > 
> > How about actually checking out the culture you'll
> be visiting.  How 
> > about looking for German music, rather than some
> rehashed version of 
> > an American form.  See what German folk or other
> music is there.  If 
> > you're in Germany, maybe see if there's a program
> on one of their 
> > historic organs--hear Bach on an instrument he
> played.  Or find a
> > martins-horn band.  Or something, anything other
> than going 
> > to the musical equivalent of McDonald's (American
> music, 
> > American food, etc...).
> > 
> > I mean no offense by this, but it's a question
> I've always wanted to 
> > ask--a rhetorical question.  I will be travelling
> soon myself, and I 
> > want to absorb the culture there--I get enough
> American culture where 
> > I live, and it's the original at that.
> > 
> > 
> > JR "Bulldogge" Ross
> > & Snuffy, too:)
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