RE: Re: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg

"Tom Klingl" <tom.klingl@xxxxxxxxxx> · Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:12:34 +0100

Well, being from Bavaria, I also want to contribute to this discussion: Ralf
is right - it is difficult to find real good Bavarian folk music in public
these days and Nurnberg is not an appropriate place for this at all. I am
saying this because I have played Bavarian folk music myself (the good stuff
;-)) in younger years. Smo-joe you have to understand: Despite your great
statement it is not easy from the viewpoint of somebody who grew up in
Germany: Some of the stuff called 'Volksmusik' also represented a very
conservative attitude to us when we were younger. And it is no better than
your so-called 'Hollywood America'. Thus we hated it. And turned to Blues,
Rock, Jazz etc.. But this is a longer thing to explain and would lead into
deeper sociological analysis of Germany's recent history. Now, if you want
to hear some really progressive Bavarian music with a humorous and political
background I'd recommend these URLs

http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/muhlandler.mp3
http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/bistaado.mp3
http://www.biermoesl-blosn.de/mp3/baywa.mp3

Back to  Nurnberg: There's an interesting thing to know about this region
(for who ever from this list will travel there): Middle-Frankonia is THE
region in Germany concerning instrument manufacturing. Names such as Hoefner
(http://www.hofner.com/ guitars, violins, celli...), Hanika (classical
guitars), Kühnl & Hoyer (brass instruments), Framus
(http://www.framus.de/guitars), Warwick (basses), K+M
(http://www.k-m.de/index.php?id=1&L=1&no_cache=1 music and mic stands and
hardware)... they are all in this wider area. The explanation for this high
concentration of mid-sized, family tradition instrument makers, plus their
suppliers is, that after WW II most of thes companies came over from Czechia
(Egerland - Eghaland, czech: Chebsko and Vogtland, which Ben already
mentioned) and settled there.

As far as I know Hoefner has guided tours but you should call and find out
when they are. Unfortunately I do not know of any harmonica factory (to add
some harp content to this contribution). Otherwise travelling to Klingenthal
as Ben advised, takes about 2.5 hours by car from Nurnberg, depending on
road conditions (winter). 

Kind regards

Tom (Berne, Switzerland)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of r_buschner@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:23 PM
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: FW: Re: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> > How about actually checking out the culture you'll be visiting.  How
> about
> > looking for German music, rather than some rehashed version of an
> > American form.  See what German folk or other music is there.
> 
> i take the opportunity to answer, since i'm german (live in Munich, 
> 100 miles south of Nuremberg).
> 
> Classical Music in Nuremberg in Feb 07:
> 
> 5. Philharmonic Concert
> Joseph Haydn - Symphony B-maj Nr. 102 Hob I:102
> Haydn was Austrian, not German.
> 
> Frédéric Chopin -Concert for Piano and Orchestra Nr. 2 f-min op. 21 
> Chopin came from Poland
> 
> Franz Liszt - Les Préludes
> well, a Hungarian...
> 
> Not a single one of them is german...and Bach is not found on the 
> schedules in Nuremberg.
> 
> Concerning german folk music: What you get here, is commercial 
> bullsh**. Sorry for the hard word, but that's it. It's pop-music 
> played by people in fantasy costumes pretended to be traditional 
> costumes, and the music has a kind of folkish touch, but that's all. 
> When someone is looking for real folk music, he has to know some 
> people in a village in the mountains, playing together at home, or 
> something like that. It's a much better idea to look for blues people 
> and beeing amongst friends then, liking the same stuff than they do,
> taking the blues as a "common language". 
> 
> That's the reality...not a romantic vision...
> 
> see ya,
> Ralf
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:47:13 +0100
> Subject: [Harp-L] re: Blues in Nurnburg
> From: jross38@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Greg asks about blues clubs in Germany (the town is unimportant for 
> this
> post) becausehe'll be visiting.  At the risk of being called
> a snob or snot, I'll  take this opportunity to do something 
> I've always wanted when I see these posts.
> 
> How about actually checking out the culture you'll be visiting.  How 
> about looking for German music, rather than some rehashed version of 
> an American form.  See what German folk or other music is there.  If 
> you're in Germany, maybe see if there's a program on one of their 
> historic organs--hear Bach on an instrument he played.  Or find a
> martins-horn band.  Or something, anything other than going 
> to the musical equivalent of McDonald's (American music, 
> American food, etc...).
> 
> I mean no offense by this, but it's a question I've always wanted to 
> ask--a rhetorical question.  I will be travelling soon myself, and I 
> want to absorb the culture there--I get enough American culture where 
> I live, and it's the original at that.
> 
> 
> JR "Bulldogge" Ross
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