To Craig & FJM, Been playing the same way youse guys do for the last 20+ years, and like the guy who found out he had been playing his harp upside down the 1st 6 months, it is too late for me to change now! Actually, I guess I first starting playng this way in '66-67. Mmmm......guess I must be getting older! Bill Grogan wlgrogan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx