[Harp-L] Harp-L Digest, Vol 183, Issue 26
Ellis
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Sun Nov 18 17:57:22 EST 2018
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re?: Perfect Pitch Hot news (The Iceman)
2. Will Wilde harmonica tuning (Richard Hunter)
3. Re: Will Wilde harmonica tuning (Gary Lehmann)
4. Re: beginner Draw 2 (Marc Molino)
5. Draw 2 choking (Mick Smith)
6. Re: Perfect Pitch / It's childs play :) (Joseph Leone)
7. Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 183, Issue 25 (John Frazer)
8. Exercise for Building Speed on Diatonic Harmonica (Brian McInnis)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:45:30 -0500
From: The Iceman <icemanle at xxxxx>
To: harp-l at xxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re?: Perfect Pitch Hot news
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oh no. not this thread again!
bottom line - if you don't believe you can obtain it - you won't. If you believe what others tell you about not being able to obtain it, you won't.
If you put all that aside and first believe that it is possible and are willing to put in the time and effort, it is possible. However, if at the back of your mind you retain the least little bit of residue of doubt, you won't.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:51:18 -0500
From: Richard Hunter <rhunter377 at xxxxx>
To: "harp-l at xxxxx" <harp-l at xxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Will Wilde harmonica tuning
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jaguire wrote:
<Has this been discussed on harp-l?I was looking at the Will Wilde
harmonica videos on <YouTube.? Looks pretty darn cool. Hohner should make
these. You can purchase them <on will wilde website.
FYI, Seydel will make a diatonic with any tuning you like for a moderate
charge on top of their usual prices.
Regarding's Wilde's tuning: I don't recall anyone discussing it here, but
as with all things harmonica, I bet we all get around to it sooner or later.
In general, the first thing I want to know about any tuning is what chords
and chord types I can play with it. You can't play a major 7th or minor
7th/9th chord on a standard Richter, but you can play either one on a
Melody Maker or Natural Minor. Then I ask what expressive moves are
available, e.g. do I get more draw bends in useful places. Finally, I ask
how much work I have to do to learn it. Melody Maker/Paddy Richter/Natural
Minor/Dorian Minor tunings are all simple variations on standard Richter,
and the learning curve for all of them is pretty short. More radical
variations (e.g. the Powerbender) take more time and effort to learn, and
that has to be balanced against the benefits of the expanded chord palette.
--
Help fund Richard Hunter's "Blue Future" killer blues record!
https://igg.me/at/bluefuture/x/18098212
Check out Richard Hunter's 21st Century rock harmonica masterpiece "The
Lucky One" at https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/richardhunter
Author, "Jazz Harp" (Oak Publications, NYC)
Latest mp3s and harmonica blog at http://hunterharp.com
Vids at http://www.youtube.com/user/lightninrick
Twitter: @lightninrick????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:58:37 -0800
From: Gary Lehmann <gnarlyheman at xxxxx>
To: Richard Hunter <rhunter377 at xxxxx>
Cc: harp-l <harp-l at xxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Will Wilde harmonica tuning
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I'm with Richard, harmonicas are all about chords.
Having said that, I just finished a diminished diatonic (Lucky 13) for a
customer.
Horses for courses, I reckon.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 6:51 AM Richard Hunter <rhunter377 at xxxxx> wrote:
> jaguire wrote:
> <Has this been discussed on harp-l?I was looking at the Will Wilde
> harmonica videos on <YouTube.? Looks pretty darn cool. Hohner should make
> these. You can purchase them <on will wilde website.
>
> FYI, Seydel will make a diatonic with any tuning you like for a moderate
> charge on top of their usual prices.
>
> Regarding's Wilde's tuning: I don't recall anyone discussing it here, but
> as with all things harmonica, I bet we all get around to it sooner or
> later.
>
> In general, the first thing I want to know about any tuning is what chords
> and chord types I can play with it. You can't play a major 7th or minor
> 7th/9th chord on a standard Richter, but you can play either one on a
> Melody Maker or Natural Minor. Then I ask what expressive moves are
> available, e.g. do I get more draw bends in useful places. Finally, I ask
> how much work I have to do to learn it. Melody Maker/Paddy Richter/Natural
> Minor/Dorian Minor tunings are all simple variations on standard Richter,
> and the learning curve for all of them is pretty short. More radical
> variations (e.g. the Powerbender) take more time and effort to learn, and
> that has to be balanced against the benefits of the expanded chord palette.
> --
> Help fund Richard Hunter's "Blue Future" killer blues record!
> https://igg.me/at/bluefuture/x/18098212
> Check out Richard Hunter's 21st Century rock harmonica masterpiece "The
> Lucky One" at https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/richardhunter
>
> Author, "Jazz Harp" (Oak Publications, NYC)
> Latest mp3s and harmonica blog at http://hunterharp.com
> Vids at http://www.youtube.com/user/lightninrick
> Twitter: @lightninrick????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:59:30 +0000
From: Marc Molino <mmolino54 at xxxxx>
To: Robert Hale <robert at xxxxx>, "harp-l at xxxxx"
<harp-l at xxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] beginner Draw 2
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Robert,
The best beginner advice I've come across for draw 2 came from Jon Gindick. It goes like this:
* Have the player articulate the word "key" as they're exhaling on the 2 hole
* Then have them reverse the breath and inhale the word "key" (advise them not to change their mouth/tongue position and just reverse the breath)
Alternatively, for teaching bends on the draw 2, Gindick advised using the sound "koo" (rhymes with the scary sound "boo!") in the same fashion as above.
Caveat, I'm no teacher and barely more than a beginner myself, but I've passed this along to others online who were frustrated and it worked like a charm.
Good luck,
Marc
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From: Harp-L <harp-l-bounces at xxxxx> on behalf of Robert Hale <robert at xxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:39 PM
To: harp-l at xxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] beginner Draw 2
ADVICE PLEASE
Of my current students, more than one beginner is troubled with draw 2 on a
C harp. All other notes respond well. This one is squeezed, choked, and can
even sound like a really good whole-step bend!
MY USUAL REMEDY
1. I have them draw holes 1-2-3 together, and we confirm that the reed
is responding normally within the chord.
2. I ask the student to exhale, draw steadily on hole 2, and hold it
"forever."
3. By the time they get toward the end of their draw breath capacity,
the throat releases, and the note rises in pitch. They hear it, and can
associate the feel with what they just heard.
This remedy is not working for a couple of new students right now. Your
ideas?
Robert Hale
Serious Honkage in Arizona
youtube.com/DUKEofWAIL
DUKEofWAIL.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:14:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mick Smith <amicksmith at xxxxx>
To: "Harp-L at xxxxx" <Harp-L at xxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Draw 2 choking
Message-ID: <239497432.2431671.1542561276162 at xxxxx>
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I open my nose when I get choking, at least I focus on an unblocked airway.? It works for me.? The thought itself seems to work.? Mileage may vary.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:05:03 -0500
From: Joseph Leone <3N037 at xxxxx>
To: Laurent Vigouroux <laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx>
Cc: F F <franze52 at xxxxx>, "harp-l at xxxxx" <harp-l at xxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Perfect Pitch / It's childs play :)
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> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:09 AM, Laurent Vigouroux <laurent.vigouroux at xxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hey hey
> I'm trying to educate my newborn daughter's ear thanks to Rick Beato advice and application.
> I'll tell you in 10 years if it works __
>
> ?Le 18/11/2018 03:51, ? Harp-L au nom de F F ? <harp-l-bounces at xxxxx au nom de franze52 at xxxxx> a ?crit :
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM
> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.n3D4EU4dP5s8w6DuReXbSQHgFo&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>
>
> Why Adults Can't Develop Perfect Pitch<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM>
> I am responding to the hundreds of adult musicians that are mad at me for telling them the truth about Perfect Pitch. Unless you are a baby reading this, forget about ...
> www.youtube.com
>
>
> So, I?m sitting in McDonald?s with a musician friend and this is what I came up with.
1? I?m assuming that the piano in the video was in tune. The boy picked the notes out. Amazing.
2? BUT what IF the piano was tuned one note LOW or one note HIGH? Ok, I would STILL expect the boy to pick out the notes.
3? BUT if he were a musician, could he play that piano? I suspect that at the very least he would be confused. As ALL the notes would be under DIFFERENT keys.
3a. (me? I would use a guitar..much easier to change the tunings.)
3b. Would he be able to play a guitar that was ?mis? tuned one note high or low? The notes being on DIFFERENT frets?
4? What if we tuned to beTWEEN notes. In other words sour or sharp? In other words out of tune. What would that be? 50 cents up or down? I don?t know.
5? In that case, I would expect the boy to say ?That?s not a Bb, it?s too high? and ?That?s not a B, too low?. Or would he stare into space?
Scenario: 6 guys are sitting at a table in the lobby and having a jazz jam. 5 are playing C chromatics. 1 is holding a Bb. Michael Peloquin calls a tune in Eb. the 5 guys are
having no problem playing the tune on THEIR C chromos. The 1 is having no problem playing that same tune in Eb. BUT he has to play in the F fingering. What?s THAT called?
Scenario: A fantastic ear player is playing a tune in F on a C chromo. He ONLY uses a C chromo. Another guy is harmonizing. The C player get this pained look on his face,
is having trouble concentrating. Why? It turns out that it WASN?T because that second player was doing anything wrong. It was because that second player wasn?t playing the
same notes as the first player. And it was throwing off his ears.
I suppose that a person with perfect pitch has a note LOCKED into their brain and then everything is referenced from that. It is much better to have NO note locked into your
brain and have a free mind and adjust to ANY pitch change extemporaneously. And as far as pitch goes, if 440 is the current standard, what did people do when the standard was
400? Aaargh. Instruments are never perfectly in tune anyway. Close but not possible. I can see the tuner move. It is never perfectly still. So from the time you tune something, it
is already going out of pitch. Imperceptibly..maybe. But still doing it.
Just some cranial drippings. No offense intended. Use for educational purposes only. lololol.
smokey joe & the cafe?s (only one of which is still alive)
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 11:21:17 -0800
From: John Frazer <harmonicajohns at xxxxx>
To: harp-l at xxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Harp-L Digest, Vol 183, Issue 25
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LOLOLOLOLOL
> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:17 AM, harp-l-request at xxxxx wrote:
>
> I am responding to the hundreds of adult musicians that are mad at me for telling them the truth about Perfect Pitch. Unless you are a baby reading this, forget about ...
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:29:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Brian McInnis <bluesharpteacher at xxxxx>
To: "harp-l at xxxxx" <harp-l at xxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Exercise for Building Speed on Diatonic Harmonica
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Sxta5cR_8&t=73s
Exercise For Building Speed
I wrote this exercise (Ex. B) and others in 2004-2005, because I wanted to build speed in my playing. I took 1/16 note runs from John Popper and Sugar Blue and turned them into long exercises for the diatonic harmonica. They can be played on any key diatonic harmonica, I choose a Bb harmonica for this video. These exercises have certainly helped my playing speed and my student's too! The sheetmusic/tab is available on PDF, make a $2 donation with a note of interest and your email, I will send it to you.
I am available for Skype or Facetime Lessons and teach privately if you are in the NYC area.
bluesharpteacher at xxxxx
Brian from HarmonicaLessonsNYC.com
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