[Harp-L] (OT) Facebook and harp-l

[harp <harp@xxxxxxxxx>]

<prepended (OT) to the subject since this is not really a harp-related
thread.  Also changed from 'Facebook vs. harp-l' to 'Facebook and harp-l'
since the two are not mutually exclusiveŠ>

HummŠ I think I do not understand your question.  I would need to think it
through a bit, but I am pretty sure that for every Facebook account there
is an email address you can send mail to.  Whatever you send there gets
posted as if you entered the post from your own Facebook account.  So if
for some reason we wanted a low maintenance way to put the contents of
this list on Facebook, one would simply add that special email address to
this list as a subscriber.

The problem with doing this is that it creates a harp-l presence on
Facebook (I duno - is this a problem? Not my call.).  However, once you
have a presence on Facebook, one of the issues (designed in on purpose) is
that you have to keep up with what is going on on your ³page² because any
person (bozo?) can post something on your Œwall¹ - basically the place
where people land if they were to search for ³harp-l² on Facebook.  So you
have ongoing maintenance to contend with.

The nice thing for administrators about a mailing list is that it is
(relatively) low maintenance.  It does what it says on the tin - send an
email here, and I will blow it out to the email addresses on the list.
Facebook is a whole other world where they never actually say what it does
on the tin, and where they are constantly changing/tuning the site to get
the most product (information about people¹s usage patterns, likes,
whatever they can come up with) they can.

As for echoing email addresses out to Facebook (yuck), that is something
that someone would need to think about - personally, I would not like my
email address spread all over the place by Facebook when I thought the
only thing I was doing was making a fairly innocuous comment to a limited
interest mailing list.

Hopefully I have addressed your question.

Brad

On 8/24/14, 9:49 AM, "Harp Explorer" <harpexplorer1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Interesting idea. So, you're saying there'd be a way to echo the list to
>Facebook so the email addresses can be mined?
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, harp <harp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, harp-l and Facebook are two different things. Harp-l is a simple
>>way
>> to participate in a group discussion with people who share your
>>interests.
>> If you are a business person or someone who uses email regularly, then
>> harp-l is almost a zero effort way to monitor and perhaps participate
>>in a
>> discussion about your hobby/vocation.
>>
>> Facebook is a pull distribution model. For the full experience you need
>>to
>> go to the site. I work with a lot of teens, and they never use email.
>> Facebook is their home, and they actively engage with it hundreds
>> (thousands?) of times a day. Facebook would love it if they never went
>> anywhere else because those people are their product. Facebook's
>>customers
>> are people who want information on those teens (and a lot of companies
>>will
>> pay for that info).  Facebook is first and foremost, a data mining and
>> monetization platform.
>>
>> For our purposes, it seems to me the question is whether this list wants
>> to reach people who live there. Speaking personally, if harp-l moved to
>> Facebook, I would probably drop just because I don't like being their
>> product and because I don't want to deal with all the other clutter they
>> throw at you when all you want to do is monitor a list and occasionally
>> chip in a word or two.  But it is not an all or nothing proposition. I
>> assume there is some automated way to echo the list to fb.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> > On Aug 24, 2014, at 8:58 AM, "joy_top top" <joy_top@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > I like harp-l as it is, but I have nothing against facebook either.
>> > Most on facebook don't know how to set it up and don't understand it.
>>I
>> have little problem with it's security.
>> > Maybe I'm not a normal user either with a background in computer
>> science, one job with the gov with computers in a secure floor policy
>>and
>> another in realestate where there is a lot of marketing including FB,
>>and
>> good reason to protect my security. I am not worried about facebook even
>> though I have multiple accounts, groups, and pages on fb with various
>> names. It is easy to secure what you don't want seen.
>> >
>> > Capt.M save the wail.
>> >
>> > Sent from the star cluster Memory Alpha
>> >
>> >
>>
>>