Fwd: [Harp-L] RE: best outta the box harp to learn over blows is ?

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 From: MundHarp@xxxxxxx
To: shellerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 6/8/2013  6:13:21 A.M. GMT Daylight Time
Subj: Re: [Harp-L] RE: best outta the box  harp to learn over blows is ?


Well.. I like Hohner's MS "Blues Harp" out of the box...
The latest ones (mostly) overblow without adjustment.
I LIKE Hohner's MS harps, I like the fact that they are a bit larger  than 
other 10 hole diatonics...
John "Whiteboy" Walden
Just now in bonnie Scotland.
But returning to the Republic of the Philippines SOON!
 
 
In a message dated 6/8/2013 5:14:29 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,  
shellerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

FYI,  Jason Ricci recommends the Suzuki Manji; or at least he did a year 
and a  half back. And now that Hohner has jacked up its prices, it doesn't 
cost  that much more than the Hohner Golden Melody I've been playing for years. 
 I'm debating whether to go that way, (though I don't really know how to  
truly overblow, but I can do some Jimmy Reed style).   

SLH




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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 23:06:15  -0500
From: Michael Rubin  <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] best outta  the box harp to learn over blows is ?
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Lee Oskars are notoriously bad for  overblows.

Learn to gap, it will make it much easier.     Take a Special 20 and push
the blow reed and the draw reed close to the  rivet, make the gap between
the reed and the plate smaller.  Get the  blow and draw reed to have a
slight resistance, as if it doesn't want to  play and you have to blow
harder.  Then back up ever so slightly to  where there is no resistance.
Then try overblowing.

In my opinion,  if you cannot play Jimmy Reed style high note blow bends in
a solo  fluidly, you are trying to overblow too early.  Knowing your  high
notes bends well will assist your overblow embouchure.
Michael  Rubin
Michaelrubinharmonica.com


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:24  PM, 46long Blake <46long@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The thing is,  once you learn how to OB, you can even do it on a $3 harp.
>  mostly.
>
> So, if you don't want to spend the $200+ for a  custom, there are still 
some
> good choices. You asked for out of the  box, after all. I can only speak 
for
> Hohner, as I haven't played  anything from another maker in a decade. For
> $30 or so, a Special 20  is a nice playing harp, and you can usually get 
OB
> 4,5, and 6 out of  the box pretty easily. Double that price, and you get a
> Crossover,  which I've become very fond of (thanks, Dave M, wherever you
> are!).  Damn close to a custom, that harp.
>
>  -  Blake
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Eric Miller  <miller.eric.t@xxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
>
> > I'm not  a very experienced player especially with over blows. I play
> >  Brendan's power tunings which eliminate the need for over blows, and  
I'm
> > very happy with the outcome.
> >
> > In  my mind the juicy blues notes that you can hit up top with the power
>  > tunings using only draw bends are easier to achieve and sound better  
than
> > over blows.  They're also sequentially more intuitive  than over blows,
> > because they are laid out in sequence instead  of having to jump 
around. I
> > encourage you to investigate this,  it's worked out very well for me.
> > Although I'm not a great  player, I'd be willing to bet that my draw 
bends
> > up top are  comparable to that of a decent overblow player, simply 
because
> >  the notes are much easier to achieve and play cleaner, so I'm playing  
at
> a
> > slight advantage.
> >
> > that  said, I think most overblow players might recommend the Manji or 
the
>  > crossover for out of the box over blow performance, based on  anecdotal
> > comments that I have seen here and there.
>  >
> > If I were to become an over blow player however, I think I  would just
> > invest in a customized harp that was set up for over  blows.  There is 
no
> > shortage of guys here on this list who  can do that kind of work
> affordably
> > on whatever harp  you prefer.  I've used Greg Jones, and I am very happy
> >  with what he does.
> > On Jun 6, 2013 10:48 PM, "Fran_3"  <mailbox0600@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Just  wondering what you guys suggest to get started with over blows.
>  I've
> > > come close on my Lee Oskar on hole 6 but I don't know  if the problem 
is
> > me,
> > > the harp, or both... so  I thought I'd try another brand just to 
compare
> > and
>  > > to learn.
> > >
> > > Actually I can get  the blow reed to choke (some of the time :) and 
with
> > > the  chromatic tuner I can see it popup to Bb for a fraction of a 
sec...
>  > but
> > > so far have not been able to get it to  hold...
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advice.
>  > >
> >
>
>
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