RE: [Harp-L] Useage of looping gear

[Noah Hoehn <nhoehn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard is absolutely correct in assessing the limitations of the LP1 below. It is $1250 and has limitations some may wonder?!?! It is unfortunately the case... And some of those are glaring ones that he has pointed out. I don't need to store tracks and I've never run out of record time so they haven't affected me. That is why if anyone on this board is interested in looping I would highly suggest this process:
1. Plan out what capabilities YOU need from your looper. Not what your friend uses or your favorite artist uses or some guy says is "the best" looper. There is no best looper. There are a number of   I would suggest this as your priority list of capabilities:   - The number of independent tracks   - The total length of record time   - Do you want to use backing tracks?   - Carefully consider your gear setup: # of mics and inputs and your effects.
2. Now look at the loopers that meet these requirements. Obviously $$ is a factor that leads to compromises...
Case in point: if Richard dug my thing and shelled out for an LP1... it would barely be serviceable for him!
The LP1 is perfect for what I'm doing--right now! I may need to go another direction in the future. That is why I own 5 loopers...
Noah
P.S. If anyone is considering the LP1 please message me personally before you buy.



> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:18:20 -0500
> From: turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Useage of looping gear
> 
> Noah Hoehn <nhoehn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hey All!
> > I use an LP1 Looperlative with two Rocktron All Access pedals and a
> > Novation MKII. The LP1 has 8 independent tracks. I have programmed over 85
> > 'scripts' or 'midi sequences' that I use to quickly build complex
> > arrangements. These sequences allow me to work with over 4 looped song
> > sections.
> 
> I checked out the LP1 on Looperlative's site.  The price tag ($1249) makes it clear that this is a serious device.  A couple of things gave me pause:
> 1) Maximum loop time of 4.5 minutes.  Devices like the new Boss and Digitech loopers get around this by using SD cards for additional storage.  
> 2) no onboard storage for loops (except for whatever's currently recorded on any of the 8 tracks), meaning you can't load a set of backing loops and take it to the gig.  (Even if you could, you'll hit that 4.5 minute limit pretty quick.) 
> 3) You can load and unload data, but you need an ethernet cable to do it.  Anyway, with only 4.5 minutes of looping on the device, doesn't seem there's a lot of space for stored loops in there.
> 
> One of the things I use my Stereo JamMan looper for is composing grooves. Once I've got one I like, I may trasnfer it to my computer for further editing, or store it on the JamMan (or an SD card in the JamMan) for retrieval and playback at a later time. Doesn't look like that's easily done on the LP1.
> 
> I've seen some of Noah's videos on Youtube, and they're flat-out amazing.  Clearly the LP1 is superb for live performance.  But at that price, I wish it did a few more things.  
> 
> One more thing: the site lists the LP1 as currently out of stock.
> 
> Thanks and regards, RIchard Hunter 
> 
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