[Harp-L] Re: Harp Break set to Dirty
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- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:28:30 -0400 (EDT)
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Richard Hunter wrote:
Of these clips, I enjoyed the SM57 most--the sound is plenty tough and
in-your-face, with more definition than the Bullet. The SM58 seemed more
distant--undoubtedlyy the result of the pop filter that surrounds the element
in the 58.
Mike Fugazzi wrote:
<1. Bullet mic no effects
<2. Bullet with effects
<3. SM57 with effects
<4. SM57 no effects
<5. SM58 no effects
<6. SM58 with effects
I haven't seen the entire thread, this might have been covered but has the
bullet mic been identified? There's dozens of variants between element
types in a bullet, each with it's own distinct flavor. There's a world of
difference between a vintage CR, and the R7 or MC-151 crystals, and the less
desirable elements currently in use by Shure and Astatic/Hohner. Design
choices and construction quality of a bullet mic often come into play as
well. I'd add a 2nd bullet, if the first was a crystal then the 2nd could be a
CR, then you have a comparison that is somewhat more equal to the two
flavors of the stick mic's.
While Mike's comparison is indeed useful, this sort of thing can never
tell the whole story. Different people can and will exhibit different tone
while using the exact same gear, one person will naturally sound better
using mic A, and the next will naturally sound better using mic B or C. Body
architecture, cupping technique and playing technique all come into play.
There's no 'one size fit's all way to do something like this. I'd love to
see a 2nd comparison where everything is dialed in to make each mic sound
the best it can. And the then the same two sets of sequences repeated with
several different players. Maybe a good use of the mic and amp room at
SPAH?
Richard, I think the difference between the 57 and the 58 may have more to
do with proximity and compression than the pop filter. The 58 has that
dome on the end, it has volume within for the sound waves to disperse, and it
spaces you further away from the element. The two mic's also cup much
differently, an interesting test might be to pull out the pop filter and/or
double it, and then repeat the experiment.
Don't get me wrong, I think the comparison offered by Mike is a good
contribution, and that Richard's pursuit of alternate means to the traditional
bullet + tube amp is a valid approach that many will want to adopt. My
point is only that there are a ton of variables, and that you never really know
if something will suit you until it's in your hands, whether it be a
harmonica, mic, amp or effect device... enjoy the journey!
Christopher Richards
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