Re: [Harp-L] Does it have a name?

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I'm just enjoying the conversation. 

Mike


On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> A cadence is an ending.
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> Those chord progessions are beginnings, not endings.
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> As I said before, establishing a tonality is not the primary characteristic of a cadence. it's a secondary one. If it doesn't create a sense of ending, it's not a cadence.
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> Winslow Yerxa
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> From: Richard Hunter <turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Does it have a name?
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> Winslow Yerxa wrote:
> <Actually, it's not a cadence.
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> <Establishing a tonal center is not the primary character of a cadence, although it's one of its <three elements.
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> <The Wikipedia article on cadences is thorough and accurate.
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> Okay, here's what Wikipedia says:
> <A harmonic cadence is a progression of (at least) two chords that concludes a phrase, section, or <piece of music.[2} A rhythmic cadence is...
> <While cadences are usually classified by specific chord or melodic progressions, the use of such <progressions does not necessarily constitute a cadenceâthere must be a sense of closure, as at the <end of a phrase. Harmonic rhythm plays an important part in determining where a cadence occurs.
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> And note these two sentences from the Wikipedia article:
> <Cadences are the main method used in tonal music to create the sense that one pitch is the tonic or central pitch of a passage or piece.[1] Edward Lowinsky thought that the cadence was the "cradle of tonality."[5]
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> I don't think there's really a whole lot of difference between that and what I wrote: "A cadence is a harmonic formula that establishes a tonal center; examples include IV-V-I, iii-vi-ii-V-I, etc.", unless you think "tonal center" and "tonic or central pitch of a passage or piece" are fundamentally different things.
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> As per Wikipedia's lengthy discussion, I agree that I was not comprehensive in my description of cadences, but it's inaccurate to say that "Actually, it's not a cadence."  Whatever else those changes are, they're directional.  That's why rockers use them so often.  And cadences, harmonic or otherwise, are directional.  They point to something.    
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> And finally, we still don't have an answer to the original question: is there a specific name for that set of changes?
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> Regards, Richard Hunter
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