Subject: Re: [Harp-l] slider troubles
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- Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:46:09 -0400 (EDT)
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Well, I had a response ready to go but my computer glitched and there it
all went. I figured you had most of what you needed from everyone
else--they're the experts, not me. I also get the list in Digest form so am usually
reading the responses and writing back quite a bit later than most.
But my take would be to try the steel wool this time around since sandpaper
hasn't quite gotten you there. I'm just not fond of sandpaper with metal.
I've rethought the 0000 and might begin with that but if it isn't strong
enough then try 000 or 00 (which I find a bit too coarse but IS good for
removing rust from metal surfaces). This is the kind I'm talking about --not
'cleaning pad' steel wool. I still have some going back years --when I worked
on furniture and the umpteen finish coats of the pine wood ducks I made as
gifts. I expect I'll be able to bequeath some in my Will, it seems to last
forever.
_http://www.briwax-online.com/lofwool.html_
(http://www.briwax-online.com/lofwool.html)
Cut a piece off with a pair of scissors (good for the scissors too - keeps
them sharpened), hold with a bit of cut-up old rubber glove to create a
sleeve for the steel wool (no metal splinters in your fingertips), and try a
few passes om the edges of each mouthpiece part. Make SURE you're holding
each MP part firmly and not allowing them to bend --so I'd do this with the
piece lying flat with the button extending off the edge of a flat surface
while you hold it down with the spread fingers of your other hand. Keep the
edge you're honing protruding just beyond the edge of the countertop or
workspace. You could use a couple of vicegrips to hold it in place if it's
impossible to manage otherwise, but don't overtighten the vicegrips either.
You're doing this step gently--not 'scrubbing'--don't want to indent a
straight surface or bend any one of these parts.
You MUST remove all metal dust/debris after this step. A tack rag works
ok--or wash the pieces under running water with a dab of dish washing
detergent getting into nooks and crannies with a dedicated toothbrush, rinsing
thoroughly. Dry completely with a lint-free cloth and then air-dry any residual
dampness. My personal guess is that 'burrs' or a slightly bent MP slide
button piece is the culprit, OR over-tightened MP screws. IF you find that
any of the MP parts are even slightly askew you could possibly straighten
them by sandwiching the entire MP (reassembled without the screws) under some
heavy books --again making sure the button is off the end of the work area,
or perhaps the experts here know a better way to straighten them. I don't.
I also don't believe in using any product INside the mouthpiece but for
those who do - when they say 'a dab' it's far less than what most people
think of as that amount. If you watch the Steve Baker videos they demonstrate
just how miniscule a dab actually is: just the scarcest wisp on the tip of a
finger so none can travel inside to your valves. Even water (to my mind)
can eventually create rust which causes sticking MP parts so I don't use it.
I'd keep the chromatic spotlessly clean (sip water before and during play)
and polish it with MAAS (followed by an Isopropyl Alcohol wipe down) --see
if those steps alone kept the slide in optimum condition. It's what seems
to work best for my own chromatics.
Elizabeth
PS: I've never had problems with springs except for one on my oldest 260
which was too short (to engage the slide) as described by Jimmy Gordon way
back in 2005. He tinkered with it and after a lot of frustration got it
fixed and it hasn't been a problem ever since. It's a gorgeous little instrument
which I carry along as a backup.
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:57:41 -0700
From: Music Cal <macaroni9999@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] slider troubles
To: harp-L list _harp-l@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx)
David, Joe, Jon and Elizabeth
OK. I combined a number of your suggestions/tips and did the following:
(1) Wire brushed the rough spots on the u-channel
(2) Used 1000 grit wetordry sandpaper wrapped around a jewelers file to
work the rough spots some more
(3) Made a last pass with crocus cloth.
The slider works much better now. I would say that it is about 3/4 of the
way there. I have not found a good way to de-burr the slider hole yet. Any
suggestions?
I thought I might also carefully place a drop of silicone oil on the spring
windings as well. When I installed the new spring a while back I I probably
used Doug Tates suggestion of pushing a thin knife blade between the
windings to cut down on the friction in the windings so I am not optimistic
about the silicone oil making much improvement. Just got to find that oil.
Its around here someplace.
MusiCal
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