Re: [Harp-L] Tongue Shimmer



H ha ha Dave, it wouldn't be the first time that someone benefited from my crazy ideas. You would have loved my book: Joy Boy's 'Kitchen table crossbows'.
Joy Boy


On May 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, David Payne wrote:

> Geez, Joe, you've typed so much gold on this list over the years, I'm gonna print it all out, bind it and sell it on the black market. I especially liked the raking grass part. 
> 
> David
> www.elkriverharmonicas.com
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> On May 4, 2012, at 8:55, Joseph Leone <3n037@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Some people think of a trill as being similar to a shimmer. And it is. And as far as I remember from trumpet back in the 60s, it is usually associated with at least 2 notes a half or full step apart. Actually that is a simplistic definition. A trill can actually be only 1 note (per SE). Imagine vibrating the tongue against the roof of the mouth (like when we were children playing) in a sort of burp gun or sub machine gun fashion. 
>> 
>> While you are only really using one note, the modulation between the burps IS, in reality, a dropped tone. Now it may not be a full half tone, but it IS a different tone. Maybe only a quarter tone, but it IS a different tone. And while we don't hear a definitive difference, mostly because of the speed, IF one were to slow that down, we DO hear a different tone. Maybe a micro tone would be a good definition. Maybe as much as 67 cents, or as little as 19 cents. But it is there. 
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>> The method you mention whereas 3 or more holes are covered as you manipulate your technique is more akin to something called a 'rake'. You are basically raking your tongue in a wider sweep almost as if you were raking leaves away from the mouthpiece holes. AND like the tines of the rake, your breath is catching IN the holes in a repetitive fashion therefore sounding the notes just as if your tines were scraping grass or leaves from your work area. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> smo-joe
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>> On May 4, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Daniel McKernan wrote:
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>>> I wanted to thank everyone for the info on tongue shimmers.  When I went
>>> back and practiced it again I noticed that it is indeed more like 3 or 4
>>> holes that I'm covering with my mouth and moving the tongue side to side
>>> rapidly.  I had originally thought it was just 2 holes.
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/desertratdan
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