Re: [Harp-L] weird bending?

Ha, I got it!
Karen, you're holding the harmonica like Sonny Terry & Dr Ross   ;-)


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Dempster" <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "David Payne" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Harp L Harp L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] weird bending?

Yes Dave, but if Karen was bending holes 1-4 DOWN that successfully, on any harp I've ever played it would have switched to the overblow, and she would be exclaiming about the note going up! Sounds like you've got a very interesting technique Karen, or you're playing a half-valved harp! Happy Christmas All! RD

On 24 December 2012 16:38, David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My surprise is that you are doing it on holes 1-4, not something higher,
I could make it happen a little, but probably not that much in the middle
register. The fact you say you haven't tried any other holes, does that
mean it took you a while to get to the point where you could do it?
You can bend blow notes a little, but usually the reed shuts down. It
takes a lot of control to make it happen, it's easier if it's valved of
course. You've probably got a lot more control than most diatonic players,
because you've been blow bending chromatics all these years. It's a similar

David Payne

________________________________ From: karen mass <kdmass7@xxxxxxxxx> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:02 PM Subject: [Harp-L] weird bending?

hi ya'll...

i've played chord harmonica for many years, fooled around with chromatic
(and now getting serious about it), and only messed with diatonics a wee
tiny bit over the years.

recently, because i've had time and inclination, i've been messing about
with blues harps, hoping i could pick up some blues licks just for giggles.

so i go to youtube, find michael rubin's tutorials and start working my way
through them. i've been stuck on bending because i can't yet get three
half step draw bends on the three hole, even on a low-a tuned harp. i'm
still working at it cuz i know i'm gunna get em eventually.

anyhow, the reason for this post is that in web researching the note
possibilities on a diatonic, i've learned this is how diatonics are sposed
to work:

hole 1 blow
hole 1 draw
hole 1 draw bend down 1/2 step
hole 2 blow
hole 2 draw
hole 2 draw bend down 1/2 step
hole 2 draw bend down 1 step
hole 3 blow
hole 3 draw
hole 3 draw bend down 1/2 step
hole 3 draw bend down 1 step
hole 3 draw bend down 1 1/2 step
hole 4 blow
hole 4 draw
hole 4 draw bend down 1/2 step

at least, that's what the documentation i've found on the web sez.


in my goofing around i've found i can bend holes 1 through 4 BLOW down at
least 1/2 step each!   that means on my A harp i can get a Ab.  and i
measured all four holes with an electronic tuner.  is this normal?  why
don't the note charts for diatonics show this?  or have i just not seen
them?  btw, this appears to be repeatable and controllable for all 4
holes.  i haven't messed with holes 5 through 10 yet.
i have also tried this on C, D, and Bb harps and it seems to hold true on
them too.

if i'm displaying my ignorance in all its glory (and i got a LOT of
glory!)  thats cool.   if not, have others seen this phenomenon?


Rick Dempster
RMIT Libraries

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