Re: [Harp-L] Re: 59 Fender Bassman reissue
Mike, I AGREE... In an ideal world!
I have played SO MANY GIGS with rubbish sound men.
Then you NEED at least 30 or 40+ (GENUINE) watts just to get heard ON
STAGE! (more than that, feedback is likely)... It might be a 5 killowatt PA!
However... The sound man can simply... EXCLUDE you from the mix.
When the sound man cuts you off, and you have a 5 watt amp?
You are up there on stage, but NO ONE can hear you. NOT EVEN YOU!!!!!
I've BEEN there...
Don't go there.
OK... While I was based in the Philippines I didn't even HAVE an amp
there... So I just used the PA... The same in the 'States last year... NOT IDEAL!
At least, playing through a substantial "on stage" harp amp... there is at
least a CHANCE of the audience HEARING your music.
5 watt tube amps are GREAT for recording... BUT... They leave too much OUT
OF THE HARMONICISTS CONTROL to use on a regular basis, on stage, except in
a parlor venue scenario.
Unless you have a GREAT "sound man"...
Your mileage might vary... Just my opinion....
John Whiteboy Walden
Just now, in England.
In a message dated 10/26/2011 9:02:31 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
I am totally sold on going ampless or only using small amps. I kept
trying and trying, but the key factor, for me, was picking up a
powered PA speaker. IMO, the quality and price of great PA gear is
what makes this a more workable solution. I can do with a powered PA
monitor what it took a kind sound guy, passive monitor, amp, mic, and
DI all on my own. I can even mix everything at the speaker and send a
lineout to the FOH PA. Super easy to use - less complicated than many
amps - loud, feedback friendly, the list goes on.
There are savings to be had too, but assuming that is a wash, pedals
and a powered speaker are the way to go!
On Oct 26, 9:55 am, Richard Hunter <turtleh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mark Burness wrote:
> <Richard wrote: "That said, in 2011 there are alternatives, some of
which offer more power and flexibility at a <lower price and with a smaller,
lighter footprint, and an increasing number of players are beginning to
outfit <themselves with those alternatives. " Rick's poll was conducted in 2011,
I'm not sure what has happened in the <months since to significantly
change his data?
> When I wrote this, I had in mind multiFX and amp modeling platforms such
as the line 6, Digitech RPs, etc. A number of pros are using this gear in
performance, and my patch sales show that the pace of adoption is
increasing over the last 12 months.
> <"The Bassman sounds great for blues, but modern players increasingly
need to play more than blues." A bassman <is rated at 45W RMS, or 50W RMS
with a solid state rectifier, this is the power it potentially makes when
<relatively clean...as with any 45 or 50W amp. It doesn't know or care what
genre of musc you play...it just <reacts to what goes in. It's not genre
> The sound of a harp through an overdriven tube amp is closely associated
with blues and rock. Saying that it's not genre specific ignores the fact
that most players go for that setup precisely because it works well for
amped blues and rock, right out of the box. Most jazz chromatic players, to
take an obvious example, don't go for a Bassman (and definitely not for the
Green Bullet that usually accompanies the Bassman onstage).
> <There are, of course, alternatives, but as a pick up & go, pretty well
self contained package (you're gonna <have to mic up through a PA
sometime), a tweed bassman is hard to beat...the RI makes that package rather more
<accessible to the masses than a handmade 45/50W amp.
> It's a good setup. We apparently agree that it's not the only setup.
An amp modeled setup with a mid-priced amp modeler (about $200) and a
powerful keyboard amp or self-powered PA speaker (such as a Peavey KB3 or Mackie
Thump) would run about $500-600 new, is as loud and easy to set up as the
Bassman (and a little lighter to carry), and does a lot of things that the
Bassman can't do (beginning with straightforward stuff like delay and
reverb) without add-ons.
> All this by way of saying that in 2011 the default setup is not
necessarily a big tube amp (or a little tube amp). Of course that setup works;
it's been refined over 50 years, and it'll keep working for lots of music.
But it's not the only game in town anymore for harp players who want to get
> Regards, Richard Hunter
> author, "Jazz Harp"
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