re:Fw: [Harp-L] now Star, was Hohner Chromonika III
- To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: re:Fw: [Harp-L] now Star, was Hohner Chromonika III
- From: pneupco@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:35:30 -0500
- Cc:
- Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=localnet.com; s=localnet; t=1299281731; bh=WFj+m9DB3vO5oqeyoLdN++Aufo4OzummHq7piwhJHV4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V7tJ2VjPOYOG3ISFenskoX2sVxS6ozv9YNCol9oQk9eHpqItQycq0JJ7QePDC/jyp 0E2yO5wfZVa4q6YW+tVnRE0N+BhduyW3mZmL4TeD//9FQjYr8XzYGPDKVuNWvg9pnc qCgVx6Rab/uZTQJeb3hyIetN4L00uu25FsoBKHTI=
- Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=localnet.com; s=localnet; t=1299281732; bh=WFj+m9DB3vO5oqeyoLdN++Aufo4OzummHq7piwhJHV4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mdabTnfAE5sKcXpd7yHnXvIAnmuRbFcH0n4ZpQvl5u6TQoGCyCh2IPMUtgXq6gSsr 9tXIhJOJ+uBDn57ErA+uS7/bPzbkSGbzKPfOq25VcHVI7vHXZ4E5mLQn70aUNnl2dU uFUKOoecdjWNie8SlcPkEPmwa7D6h/Wfnsce2CC8=
- User-agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3)
Dave,
The star symbol on Hohner harmonicas had nothing to do with Weiss. It
was just part of their trademark and it was used from the earliest
times. It wasn't a religous thing, either - they (the Hohners) were
good Lutherans. I have a Marine Band from about 1905 - plated brass
coverplates, etc. It has the star symbol.
As far as when they got rid of the star goes, I read someplace (I was
trying to find where I read it so I could cite it, but with no luck)
that at sometime in the late 1930s, a local Nazi official stopped by
the Hohner factory and told them that it might be a good idea to get
rid of the star, so as not to offend Hitler. Hohner took the hint.
Hope this helps some.
Paul N.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sender: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:45:40 To: Harp L Harp L<harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] now Star, was Hohner Chromonika III
There has never emerged a exact account of why the star was
added/removed, but my best guess and Ive yet to hear a more plausible
suggestion, was it was added after the Hohner/ Weiss merger in the
1920s because that star was the Weiss trademark and it appears on the
Hohner trademark about the time of the merger. The Weiss heir got a
high level executive position at Hohner as part of the agreement. The
six sided star appears to have been dropped around 1937. that was the
year that Hohner was set up at the German display at this exhibition In
Paris, where the German and Soviet booths were right next to each other
and the national displays turned into this big personal pissing match
between Hitler and Stalin. It was an extremely high profile thing as a
result and every detail was freaked out about by the nazi and soviet
high brass. You see only a handful of harmonicas bearing the medal from
1937 Paris with the star on the trademark, most do not. In fact, i have
only seen one harmonica with both. It was an Unsere Liebling. My belief
is the ones bearing the medal and star were made before the exhibition
to offer for sale there, that's why they are rare. My guess is it got
noticed there and susequently the star was eliminated. I've never found
direct evidence of this, only circumstancial, so I call it the Elk
River star hypothesis.
Of course, it had nothing to do with promoting religion, if you look at
something like the The New Best Quality or the original Old Standby
(pre WWI) you see the crescent moon and star straight out of Islam. The
Hohners were no more Jewish than they were Islamic.
There were probably a half dozen companies using the six sided star in
the late 1800s probably as a way to cash in on Wess' popularity, or
maybe they just liked it, but that putting thst star on trademarks
started with Weiss. For the first 40 years or so Weiss was the company
Hohner tried to emulate.
Dave Payne, Sr.
www.elkriverharmonicas.com (in the process of going back up)
________________________________
From: steve warner <10reedsbent@xxxxxxxxx>
To: harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:59:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Hohner Chromonika III
Great score, Ken!
I have one too. First time I blew mine I sucked in a dried up old
moth. A friend who doesn't play harp had this thing and just came over one
day and said, "I'm cleaning up the garage and I have something for ya."
***Now look closely on the bottom side and see if it has the Jewish 6 point
star between the hands right in the center.
I've attached a picture.
This star was removed when those Nazi SOB's were in the process of wiping
out, well, you know the disgusting story. I can't remember exactly, but
pushing 1940 is when this happened.
This archive was generated by a fusion of
Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition) and
MHonArc 2.6.8.