[Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 94, Issue 1; strep throat and cleaning harps
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This is an interesting thread. Soaking in strong booze sounds good but may or may not disinfect depending on how strong the booze is and how long the soaking is. These things will work from principles of sepsis and hygene:
Don't let other people play your harps and don't let them cough or sneeze on them either.
Keep harps clean by tapping out saliva after playing and having a clean mouth when you play.
I'm going to wipe the mouthpieces with a handcleaning wipe after playing too after reading this thread.
If you have an infection consider dismantling and cleaning the harps you play afterwards. Use the widely available hand sterilising fluids or wipes and clean all surfaces nooks and crannies.
Viruses and bacteria cannot generally survive dry conditions on a hard surface for long so letting harps rest and dry out for a couple of weeks will probably destroy them (the bugs that is).
Kinda boring but probably safe.
Richard
Richard Hammersley
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Scottish Borders
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: Strep throat and harps (Deb Wind)
2. Re: Re: Strep throat and harps (Joe Leone)
3. Re-dipping your instrument (David Michelsen)
4. Re: Country (Robert Hale)
5. August harmonica camp (Boris Plotnikov)
6. Sacking the Blind (David Priestley ( for harp-L))
7. Re: Re: Strep throat and harps (THOMAS FIACCO)
8. strep (Mark)
9. Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 73 (Ryan Matzen)
10. strep (THOMAS FIACCO)
11. Re: strep (Steve Morton)
12. Harmonica Masters Workshops video (Steve Baker)
13. seydel reed screw and valve (David Pearce)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:05:21 -0500
From: Deb Wind <debseifriedwind@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Strep throat and harps
To: Harp List <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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This is a very relevant article that appeared in The New York Times last
week:
The Claim: Playing a Wind Instrument Causes Respiratory Infection By ANAHAD
O’CONNOR<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
Published:
May 23, 2011
*THE FACTS*
Related
For years, scientists have noticed that people who play wind instruments
seem to be at greater risk of chronic sore throats and airway inflammation.
Some research suggested that saliva and microorganisms might build up in the
mouthpieces, then get blown deeper into the instruments.
But until recently, scientists did not know whether the germs could breed
and survive long enough to sicken someone playing the instrument a day or
two later.
In a study published this month in The International Journal of
Environmental Health Research, Tufts University scientists tested 20
instruments — flutes, clarinets, trumpets and saxophones. All were found to
harbor living bacteria, mold and yeast, some of which survived for several
days when cultured. Wooden reeds and mouthpieces had the most contamination.
While researchers have not looked specifically at infection rates in
musicians, there have been numerous case reports of lung problems linked to
instruments. One published in the journal Chest last year described a
35-year-old trombone player who had suffered a bad cough for 15 years; it
went away after he started disinfecting the instrument with rubbing alcohol.
In another, also published in Chest, a 67-year-old saxophonist with shortness
of breath<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/breathing-difficulty/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier>saw
the problem disappear after he made a habit of washing his mouthpiece.
Experts say that in addition to regularly cleaning mouthpieces, musicians
should routinely disassemble and clean wind instruments with soap and water
or alcohol wipes, especially if it’s shared.
*THE BOTTOM LINE*
Certain instruments can raise the risk of infections if not routinely
cleaned.
*ANAHAD O’CONNOR*
scitimes@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Damien Masterson
<dzm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> ...Clean it and disinfect it regularly....
>
> ...It's one of the few instruments out there that requires us to suck the
> contents of the instrument (and the immediate environment) directly into our
> throats and lungs.
>
Indeed!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:59:50 -0400
From: Joe Leone <3n037@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Strep throat and harps
To: Deb Wind <debseifriedwind@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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On May 31, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Deb Wind wrote:
> This is a very relevant article that appeared in The New York Times last
> week:
> The Claim: Playing a Wind Instrument Causes Respiratory Infection By ANAHAD
> O’CONNOR<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
> Published:
> May 23, 2011
Trumpet players take their instruments apart, and since they RUN on saliva, this is important. (see movie 'Mo Better Blues'). A trumpet can be dipped.
Saxophones are a little trickier. They 'can' be soaked but shouldn't. Clarinets can be soaked. For those 2 items, I always took a loose wad of cotton, soaked it in Lysol or Witch Hazel, stuck it in the neck, and blew a few tunes through it. I would use a tongue depressor and cotton to clean the valve membranes. I always soaked my reeds in alcohol..or when I was flush, with vodka. lol My mouthpieces were all metal. so that was no problem area.
Harmonica content. I have often been seen at a gig, spritzing full bore alcohol into a chromatic, working the slide a few times, and I'm ready to go. Diatonics can be soaked, but some of mine have valves. The alcohol doesn't soften the spray I use on the valves because I dip them and shake them out very quickly. (I do that at home). I have never had a throat problem.
smo-joe.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:02:44 +0100
From: David Michelsen <dmharpman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Re-dipping your instrument
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Hi Joe
I liked the idea of dipping' them at home. So first I soaked my
harmonicas in C_2 H_5 OH & that seemed fine. So I thought being as how I
play piano as my second instrument, what I ought to do is
. . .
So The ice truck has been round and made a delivery & now I got a tanker
in the drive-way and I've moved the Baby Grand into the basement, which
is now about knee deep in Gin. I cracked a bottle of tonic water into it
and as Mr Fleming says it should be shaken, not stirred or is it the
other way round - I think the fumes are getting to me. So suggestions as
to how I shake it to the tune of 'Stone Fox Chase', which I'm starting
on my newly soaked C harp ;-)
Dr Midnight
On 31/05/2011 15:59, Joe Leone wrote:
> On May 31, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Deb Wind wrote:
>
>
> Harmonica content. I have often been seen at a gig, spritzing full bore alcohol into a chromatic, working the slide a few times, and I'm ready to go. Diatonics can be soaked, but some of mine have valves. The alcohol doesn't soften the spray I use on the valves because I dip them and shake them out very quickly. (I do that at home). I have never had a throat problem.
> smo-joe.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:06:19 -0700
From: Robert Hale <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Country
To: JersiMuse <jersimuse@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:09 AM, JersiMuse <jersimuse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I like that one from cafeclopeaddicted youtube channel :
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvK8xDnsCM
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvK8xDnsCM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
> >&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Oh Yes! that is fine!
STUDY METHOD
All of this can be learned in pieces. Start slowly and accurately. Use a
wave form editor (such as GoldWave http://www.goldwave.com/ ) to slow it
down while keeping the pitch.
PERFORMANCE GOAL
You may never need to deliver this entirely as recorded, but the sections
you learn will become part of your freestyle playing.
(I'm gonna go listen to it again!)
Stay well
Play well
Robert Hale is the DUKE of WAIL
Distance Learning via Webcam
http://www.dukeofwail.com
Gilbert AZ (Phoenix)
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:25:20 +0600
From: Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] August harmonica camp
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Eugene Ivanov aka Jim, developer of truechromatic organizing a
harmonica summer camp in August!
Brendan Power, Mikhail Vladimirov (Trossingen jazz harmonica winner!),
Slava Vinogradov, Leonid Titkov (NHL winner 2010), Eugene Ivanov,
Boris Plotnikov (me)
All info is in PDF.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5452421/Harp_summer2011.pdf
--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:03:17 +0100
From: "David Priestley ( for harp-L)" <dmharpman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Sacking the Blind
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Hi there
On the flip side of my blind leading the bind story, I have had occasion
to sack a blind harmonica player for not reading the music. Here's how
it came about.
I was putting together a harmonica quintet with Bass & Chord Harmonicas
in the rhythm section, two blues-harp players and a slide chromatic
player. The idea was that the 3 melody harps would make up a horn
section style sound along with the lead player. Sometimes a 10 hole
diatonic would carry the lead and at other times the slide chromatic
would take the lead.
I wanted the expressive sounds that diatonic harps make when bending
notes with spot on pitch control. They really do sound good when playing
in section. I spent a season playing the inside harmony in a horn
section but working on a harp, it did wonders for my pitch control and I
can recommend it to anyone. It was that experience that gave me the idea
for this non-standard harmonica ensemble. I don't know why but it seems
the short harp doesn't get used much in harmonica groups.
About 90% of our set was original music that I wrote for the group. The
chromatic player was blind. I gave him his parts as solo parts on tape,
as minus one tapes and even as music in the Braille system. Yet he
would persist in going his own merry way and improvising all the time
once he had played the head.
I told him that by persisting in his approach he was disrespecting the
work I put in as the composer and worse he was disrespecting all the
hard work that the other players were putting in. All the players did
have spaces where they could improvise.
Well time went on and he simply wouldn't be told, so in the end I
sacked him for not reading the music.
On other projects where I've had the job of Music Director on a project
I've heard the whispers " You want to watch your self with this guy,
he's a real hard ass. Once he even sacked a blind guy for not reading
the music".
There is almost nothing so strange as life - All the best - David
--
D Priestley AKA Dr Midnight.
England's first harmonica Guru.
Do feel free get in touch.
Harmonica lessons POA,(10 = 20% discount,& 20 = 25% discount).
I teach from: 51 Barkston Gdns, the basement flat& On-Line,
Email me or call me to book lessons or get more info.
E-mail= dmharpman@xxxxxxxxx
Website= http://www.cognitionarts.com/
Phone=(44) 0207 373 0295
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:15:18 -0400
From: THOMAS FIACCO <mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Strep throat and harps
To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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"Full bore" alchohol? Unless you're using 98%,which is what I procure from the pharma industry,
your'e still leaving moisture inside the intrument,unless you open it up and let it air dry.
98% IPA is not available outside the manufacturing or hospital services.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:27:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark <cahebayx@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] strep
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best thing and safe for humans is "ever ready" 200 proof alcohol , that is pure alcohol and non toxic residue
Regards
Mark
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:26:22 -0500
From: Ryan Matzen <mississippi.sax@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 73
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FOR SALE: Mint condition VHT Special 6 with harp friendly tubes (JJ 6V6S &
JAN 5751). The amp has only been used a few times and has never left the
house. Comes with foot switch and manual. I am only selling 'cuz I am
unemployed and need to pay bills!
$200 (will take PayPal)
Please contact me off list!
mississippi.sax@xxxxxxxxx
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:07:00 -0400
From: THOMAS FIACCO <mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] strep
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If you are speaking of "Everclear" grain alcohol,it is 190 proof,and is only made for purchase in some states.
It is banned in most-as for fit for human consumption-take it from me-I held one "toga party" featuring grain
alcohol-we found 3 people in our hedges in t he morning,and two others almost died of alcohol poisoning.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:08:47 -0700
From: Steve Morton <skybluesman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] strep
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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THOMAS has that right. And if you want to be sure you're dead, ingesting
the addititives that take you from 95% to near 100% anhydrous alcohol will
do the job.
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, THOMAS FIACCO <mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> If you are speaking of "Everclear" grain alcohol,it is 190 proof,and is
> only made for purchase in some states.
> It is banned in most-as for fit for human consumption-take it from me-I
> held one "toga party" featuring grain
> alcohol-we found 3 people in our hedges in t he morning,and two others
> almost died of alcohol poisoning.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:45:34 +0200
From: Steve Baker <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Harmonica Masters Workshops video
To: Harp-L <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Here's a link to a video of the grand finale at the Harmonica Masters
Workshops 2010 in Trossingen featuring David Barrett, Joe Filisko &
myself. A bit chaotic in places but it was fun and gives a feel for
the event:
http://www.harmonica-masters.de/index.php?
cl=news#07362e035569cfe43dee9931f78ad943
Steve Baker
www.stevebaker.de
www.european-blues-masterclass.com
www.harmonica-masters.de
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 10:03:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Pearce <harpdog123@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] seydel reed screw and valve
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I want to put a valve on a reed slot with a seydel screw holding the reed in place. The head of the screw protrudes from the rivet hole so I can't lay the valve down flat on the slot. What's the best solution to this problem?
Thanks,
David Pearce
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