Re: [Harp-L] Bose PAS Redux?
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- From: The Iceman <icemanle@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:38:18 -0500 (EST)
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If you've got dual subs for each L1, then you use the same set up that I do for larger gigs. The auditorium in your video is the same type of venue that I've worked my system. Went into an empty auditorium like this a few years ago to demonstrate for the sound crew the possibilities. Everyone was blown away. The only drawback was that the radial dispersion of the sound did drop off a bit of high end at the far left/right sides, a situation that may be eliminated by the newer L2 models, in which the small speakers in the columns are angled a bit alternating left/right.
-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Hoehn <nhoehn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: mike.snowden <mike.snowden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; billhines4 <billhines4@xxxxxxxxx>; harp-l harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Bose PAS Redux?
I have two L1 Model 1 systems with dual subs and love them. In my show I loop
harmonica, marimba, percussion and vocals. The clarity and definition that the
Bose stacks offer keep my loops from mushing together. I run the harp through an
Eventide Eclipse and it sounds great to me. I have miked up and run a '53
deluxe, a Gibson GA-5 and a little smokey and run them through the stacks and
they all sounded good as well. But obviously... not a good as the amps
themselves. Vocals sound amazing and if you use them as intended (room size,
placement...) they are a fantastic choice. I would characterize the Bose as
"transparent" and that's exactly what I want. The really fantastic thing I've
realized is that after working with the Bose in daily practice in tweaking my
patches, tweaking the EQ and drive and levels etc; when I play a theater I find
that I'm really dialed in and there is minimal to zero tweaking necessary. I've
used them in 50 seat listening rooms and up to 800 seat theaters with a bit of
FOH for support.
The scary thing is that I've played through the L1 Model 2s and they are even
better. And smaller :)
I've played a harp commander and loved it but not through a Bose... NOTE: my Pod
xt Live sounds terrible through it. Granted... my Pod xt Live sounds
terrible--- but I've tried to tweak patches I've used in auditoriums and
everything was really bad. My conclusion was that it's the PODs fault and the
Bose exposed it for the guitar-voiced piece it really is, but I thought I'd
throw it in there.
Noah
Bose PAS example:
http://www.youtube.com/noahhoehn
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:44:12 +0000
> From: mike.snowden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Bose PAS Redux?
> To: billhines4@xxxxxxxxx; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> CC:
>
> I've never seen the L1 arrays used with harp, but with acoustic guitar/folk
and
> vocals, they are as good as I have ever heard. Great range, great projection,
> and I think they would work very well with harp. They are very clean and
> transparent, so you might want to consider something like eg the Boss "Fender
> Bassman" pedal (or equivalent patch) in the chain, if you like "Amp sound"
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill Hines <billhines4@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 23:06:06
> Subject: [Harp-L] Bose PAS Redux?
>
> All of the talk about amp stands, sound projection, monitors vs mains, etc has
> me remembering that Larry used to be a big proponent of the Bose PAS to solve
a
> number of these. I always thought that teaming this up with a Lone Wolf, Harp
> Commander, Digitech (w/Hunter patches) all of which have been discussed
lately,
> might be quite optimal in some cases.
>
> Well, now that we have Larry (Iceman) back, what say you? Any change of
opinions
> or news to report on this front? It's been quite some time since it's been
> mentioned.
>
> For those who weren't part of these past discussions, a big feature of this
gear
> is the ability to uniformly distribute sound for the band and the audience,
> compactness, etc.
>
> Bill Hines
>
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