Re: [Harp-L] Politics and Blues Harp
When I pay money to be entertained I do not care what the performers political opinion is nor do I want to hear about it unsolicited. I want to see a show not listen to a person pontificate their political point of view.
I have been performing for years and have never thought there is a place or a need to be heard in any other manner.
On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Scott Harris <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Isn't this the beauty of America? Artists are free to express their political beliefs (and equally free to keep them private) both within their art and outside of their art. At the same time, as an audience, we are equally free to allow those expressions to impact our choices, or not. There is no right or wrong answer, simply options that are available to all of us as musicians or members of an audience.
> Scott Harris
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 8:58 AM, michael rubin wrote:
> You say it is a terrible mistake for a performer to inject the current
> political/social zeitgeist. Yet while they may lose your business,
> they may gain other's who are in line with their politics. It is even
> possible that a song may contain even of a good argument, albeit
> sometimes an emotional one, to change the mind of a listener. If the
> artist believes in his politics, isn't it living in integrity to
> discuss his politics in song and possibly hope to convince an audience
> Perhaps this is Meta and dangerous because I am going to bring up a
> religion example. I am a Jewish man who has considered Christianity
> seriously. I have read the bible many times and gone to various
> churches. Ultimately it does not ring true for me. However, I rarely
> get upset when a Christian prostyletizes (Sp?) me. Why? Because the
> Bible, what they believe to be the word of God, tells that that it is
> their duty as a Christian to do so. If they truly believe this, they
> would not be within their integrity to not try. Now, at a certain
> point, I reserve the right to say I am too busy to discuss it. I also
> reserve the right to argue my beliefs. Some people are annoying in
> the way they do it and I reserve the right to get away from them.
> Whether or not they convince me and whether or not Christ is the true
> God, I am grateful for them for trying. It is within their integrity
> to try and it is a good thing to try because they believe they are
> saving me from a bad fate.
> I would like you to consider how right the political musician thinks
> he is and how much he believes your belief system is damaging to
> yourself and others. Then consider how much he is acting within his
> integrity and trying to do good for the world. AND perhaps he will
> change your mind if you give him a open minded listen.
> So to me it is not a terrible mistake. It is a person fighting for
> the common good. That said, I find most political performers annoying
> and I try and avoid them.
> Michael Rubin
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Steve Shaw <moorcot@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I would have thought it quite difficult for anyone to inject such when their gob is full of harmonica metal.Thing is, you're simply exercising your democratic right. Long may you be able to do so.
>>> From: bkumpe@xxxxxxx
>>> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:36:03 -0600
>>> Subject: [Harp-L] Politics and Blues Harp
>>> I am a born again Christian, politically conservative, blues fan. There are
>>> a lot of us. We just don't talk about it. There is a tendency among some
>>> in the performing arts to adopt the attitudes of and inject into their
>>> performances whatever they perceive to be the current political/social
>>> zeitgeist. That is a terrible mistake. While nobody begrudges a performer
>>> their honest expression of their views on any subject through their art, the
>>> self-serving agenda of many performers is obvious and that degrades the art.
>>> I flee political correctness, especially the self-serving genre, and will
>>> not pay good money to support performers who inject it into what is supposed
>>> to be entertainment. I am a social and political conservative and my money
>>> tends to follow my beliefs. While I never inquire into the politics of any
>>> performer, the first time they force PC or liberal orthodoxy upon me in a
>>> performance, I walk, if need be in the middle of the performance, and never
>>> support them again.
>>> Bill Kumpe
>>> Tulsa, OK
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